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CoF template URL update[edit]

I have updated Template:CoF to fix the URLs, all template links are now working properly again. Thanks for working on this although it took me a while to notice due to inactivity. Hopefully this will be useful to all. Thanks for your work. Koumz (talk) 18:21, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

@Koumz: Thank you for doing all the real work. Here's to cataloging fish in 2015. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:35, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
The problem is actually a little bigger than that even, as it affects all CAS links and not just the fishes ones, but I will come at least briefly out of my semi-retirement to fire up AWB and fix them. Koumz (talk) 19:40, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Great! I more or less exclusively create and/or edit ichthyology related articles, so this is very good news. Applause! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:45, 26 December 2014 (UTC).

Autopatrolled rights[edit]

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Patrolling rights[edit]

Thanks a lof for using your patroller user right and doing some patrolling! Please inform me if you experienced any difficaulties, or if you have any questions.

Since you have made use of your patroller user rights, you will keep them, and I will remove your autopatrol user right, since there is no need for both.

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Lectotype images for Homo sapiens sapiens[edit]

  • Someone with greater wiki technical and legal skills than myself either needs to contact Uppsala University for permission to upload to Wikimedia Commons, or upload a copy of the JPG directly to Wikipedia/Wikispecies as a fair use of the copyrighted image. Nicole Sharp (talk) 04:42, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
    Talk:Homo sapiens sapiens#The picture
    commons:Commons:FAQ#Copyright questions
    • @Nicole Sharp: I have actually tried to make a mosaic picture of humans before which shows different skin tones, ages, sexes, etc. because that would be a good representation of how humans look rather than choosing a single human image. Your point is a good one. —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:44, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
      • My personal opinion is that it would be impossible to find a single phenotypic image for which all humans would agree upon to represent themselves as a species. Even the famous Pioneer plaques sent to represent the human species to extraterrestrials had human genitalia censored by NASA. From a biotaxonomic perspective however, it is difficult to disagree with the historical contributions of Carl von Linné to the field, despite being a white (cishetero) European and perhaps not the best representative of human diversity. His spouse however would arguably make a better historical lectotype than him, since females are more common within the species. With female and male being the most common sexes present in the species, accounting for about 99% of the population, it would be good to have images of both Carl and Sara von Linné, and not the just the male of the couple. Nicole Sharp (talk) 05:00, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
        • @Nicole Sharp: Sure but having a variety of faces and body types would be even better, since humans have variation amongst them. I'm not sure how or why Linneaus' sexual orientation is relevant (in fact, how do you even know it...?) since that isn't something that is displayed in a picture, but many common differences in traits can be observed with a mosaic of images made up of many types of humans. —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
          • (Typo for parenthetical subimportance corrected above.) I was just expressing the number of sociological privileges that von Linné enjoyed to enter such a prestigious position in the biological sciences. I agree that an image attempting to express human biogenetic diversity would be best, but I think it would be impossible to do practically. I think using the established human lectotype of von Linné is an acceptable compromise due to his historical importance to biological taxonomy. I am only arguing that an image of his spouse should also be added as a human paralectotype so that the numerical-majority female sex can be represented. Of course, sex and sexuality of historical figures is notoriously difficult to know. For all we know, one or both of the von Linnés could have been intersex, since human intersexuality was poorly understood at that time, particularly chromosomal science. All we know is that they were sexually compatible enough to successfully reproduce offspring. Nicole Sharp (talk) 00:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Administrator?[edit]

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Dear, J.A. Knapp! Would you accept to be an Administrator on Wikispecies?
Please see Administrators for information about Admins rights. If you are positive, I can nominate you on the requests for adminship on your behalf.

Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:09, 16 November 2015 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: I would be honored. Thanks! —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you @Koavf: please confirm here that you accept the nomination. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

Administrator rights[edit]

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Hello again Koavf.
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Again, congratulations. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 04:10, 25 November 2015 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: Thanks a lot. I hope that I can be of service. —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Template:Zootaxa[edit]

Hi Koavf,
there's something wrong with this template, see Template:Bai, Xu & Dai, 2015 or Cameraria_(Lithocolletinae). There's a line feed too much. Can you change this? --Murma174 (talk) 08:52, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

P.S. I'm not sure, but the problem coud be here in the last two rows: Instead of

or {{zootaxa|year|number|start page|end page}} otherwise</nowiki></noinclude>
<noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>

write:

or {{zootaxa|year|number|start page|end page}} otherwise</nowiki></noinclude><noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>

Hope this helps. Thanks --Murma174 (talk) 17:19, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

@Murma174: That was exactly it. Good eye! —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:58, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Patrol stats[edit]

Thanks to Cgt on danish Wp, we can now see statistics on patrolling: https://cgt.name/patrolstats/wikispecies.html Dan Koehl (talk) 19:53, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Please note that the patrolling stats URL has now changed from the da:WP user Cgt's personal web page (listed above) to a URL within the Wikimedia project itself, more specifically https://tools.wmflabs.org/patrolstats/specieswiki.html at Wikimedia Tool Labs. The old "cgt.name" URL no longer works without a proper SSL certificate. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:50, 17 April 2016 (UTC).

Patrol stats[edit]

Thanks to Cgt on danish Wp, we can now see statistics on patrolling: https://cgt.name/patrolstats/wikispecies.html MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Stegana[edit]

Hi Justin. Your points on the pump are well meaning, but please look at his recent edits. He is once gain trying to impose his chosen formats onto WS as well as annoying PeterR sufficiently as to force him to move off our site. The trouble with Thorpe is that he treats WS as his chosen domain and to hell with the rest of us. Many of his edits in the last couple of days are both helpful and show a lack of knowledge. In addition, he is acting in a petty manner by refusing to listen to others and going along on his own sweet way, particularly when it comes to formats and ignoring consensus. As PeterR puts it he is not as good as he thinks he is and IMO he has made few original contributions in the last few years preferring to concentrate on categories and getting involved with the contributions of others! I also think he is perhaps trying to provoke edit wars. Do we need a checkuser ASAP? Andyboorman (talk) 18:45, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: It's pretty obvious--I just did it. It's sad. He has a lot to offer but just refuses to not argue with others. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:47, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
I was tempted as I added stuff to his talk page! Thanks and regards Andyboorman (talk) 20:11, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

@Koavf: Same old duck I guess Eviota. Not a new tactic continuous creation of "new" users, but how difficult is it to stop? Andyboorman (talk) 11:33, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Template:Sp[edit]

Hi,

Please could you look at my suggestion here, and the demo edit mentioned there, and see what you think? We need a way to apply the class without the DIV (but in each instance of the template instead); I fear that's not achievable. If so, we may need a bot run to add a pair of top & bottom templates Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:Languages[edit]

Thank you for fixing my edit to the {{Languages}} template.(diff.) That was a very odd error of mine: I must have made my edit using data from an old version of the template – inadvertently of course! Again, thanks. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:10, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: No problem--thank you! —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:14, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Contributions[edit]

Hi,

Stohner is changing my contributions again without communicate it with me. Even the references (after our agreements). See Myriopleura isocentra. I have already change it back, but maybe you can see his changes. PeterR (talk) 08:58, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

@PeterR: It looks like you created Myriopleura isocentra and then he edited it but there wasn't edit-warring here. If there's some disagreement, you can post to his talk or try to find some middle ground. I don't see what the problem is in this case. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Apology[edit]

Justin,

Herewith I excuse me for my remark to block you. I was and I'm very frustrated that Stho002 came back. I know what that means for me: a lot of nag. I was angry because you unblock him without consultation with others. I hope you except my apology. PeterR (talk) 07:44, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@PeterR: No worries, man--you didn't do anything wrong. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Italian translations[edit]

Hi, I wanted to start translations in Italian at Wikispecies:Localization: can you enable it please? Thank you --Ruthven (talk) 11:16, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

@Ruthven: Grazie! You can post it here, on Wikispecies talk:Localization or email it to me. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:30, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm doing some translations but I need a quick information: where are messages like MediaWiki:Paleornithologist/it used? Those should be lower case in Italian unless they are used just after a punctation mark. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:43, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
@Vituzzu: Strictly speaking, we should have entries for both "Name" and "name" as well as "Zoologist" and "zoologist" but since there is so little actual text on Wikispecies, it's not that critical. I'd be happy to copy and paste any Italian translations you have and start adding them to our interface. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:18, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
Uhm I see (@Pigsonthewing: too), so if needed you can fix/fork those messages by yourself since the rule is pretty straightforward. Basically in Italian adjectives and nouns of things/activities/almost-anything-but-proper-nouns are lower case. So you'll say "the species was firstly described by zoologist Koavf in october 2016". By the way I'm using my stewards userrights to put translations directly into mediawiki's namespace avoiding bothering you with requests to move translations, I hope this is not a problem to local policies, otherwise I'll put them in talkpages. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
@Vituzzu: Go for it! Thanks a lot. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

New Zealand categories[edit]

Hi, I've seen you're engaged in cleaning the geographical categories. There remain more than 9200 categories in the form of "Category: New Zealand xxx" and "Category: xxx (New Zealand)". Can you please mop these too? Mariusm (talk) 14:00, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

@Mariusm: I've got a list of 11,000 that I'm working through, including those. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Template:Nadi[edit]

Hello, I reverted part of your edit in this template. In my opinion, it is better to have the distribution information only in a collapsible box. In cases like Ochna it would take too much space in the article. As there already have been some discussions, if distribution data should be included or not, it certainly is better to present it not too bulky. Regards --Franz Xaver (talk) 11:34, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Franz Xaver: Thanks for your note. It's a pity that we have anything that is collapsible, since it is inaccessible to users and doesn't work with some browsers/rendering agents. —Justin (koavf)TCM 13:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Category:Publications of[edit]

Koafv,

I see that you are updating the Category:Publications of, but we have already decide not to use them in the reference template. We place the reference templates in the author pages under Publications. One of the persons who delete the category in the reference templates is me. So what you are doing is overdone. PeterR (talk) 06:25, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

@PeterR: Are you saying that the consensus is to delete these categories? —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:26, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Yes that is and place the reference templates under the authors.If you look in the new reference templates, you don't see Category:Publications of any more. See Template:Roberts, 1941. PeterR (talk) 08:30, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

template NADI[edit]

Hello, and @Orchi: @Franz Xaver:. I think your edits on this template need discussion. For example, I do not think that a collapse box approach reduces accessibility, but it does reduce the size of the taxon page making it more readable. However, I do not often use the template, so perhaps others should make there views known as well. Andyboorman (talk) 19:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: I'll revert it for now and post at the pump. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
Good plan, thanks Andyboorman (talk) 19:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

ISBN's[edit]

Any chance of fixing up the remaining templates with AWB?

https://species.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=1000&offset=0&ns10=1&search=+insource%3AISBN&searchToken=ez8pw306lmoemftv38ir9f4go ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 01:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Slowly but surely. Thanks a lot. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

The equivalent for articles was https://species.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&profile=advanced&fulltext=Search&search=insource%3A%2Fisbn+%2Fi&searchengineselect=mediawiki&ns0=1 Over 7000 entires means this is going to need a bot to get them converted at any appreciable rate of progress... I don't know any bot writers..ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:24, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

KoehlBot run by 'crat Dan Koehl should be able to take care of this. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:31, 4 January 2017 (UTC).
I will definitely have a look and let you know. The question is if I will need to apply for that function through voting, in order to not make an error? There was some angry comments before reg the Bot... Dan Koehl (talk) 20:00, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
In my opinion, no. I remember all the fuzz that were stirred up before, but that should be considered history. Nowadays the bot is registered after having passed all tests and getting approved, so it should be able to run just like any other approved bot. And as usual, if someone disapproves or spots an erroneous edit they are welcome to flag for this on KoehlBot's user page, again just like with any other bot. As a side note and regarding bots in general rather than KoehlBot, I sometimes have a difficult time understanding all the commotion regarding the bots. There are a mere total of 23 approved bots on Wikispecies, most of them inactive. As a comparison the English Wikipedia runs 312 bots, many of them very active and dealing with an immensely much bigger number of pages than Wikispecies. Yet there seems to be peace in enWP bot land these days... –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 03:02, 5 January 2017 (UTC).

Documentation[edit]

Hi! Can you explain, why you deleted and removed the documentation from {{Acevedo-Rodríguez, 2005}}? --Franz Xaver (talk) 07:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

@Franz Xaver: I'll respond here. I think you are correct that this should have documentation since it has different functionality. Sorry and thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 07:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Publications of D. Telnov[edit]

We had made the decision to remove all categories except the Categories for museum and author taxa. I see you have delete publications of but not the category itself. See Category:Publications of D. Telnov. Why not? PeterR (talk) 11:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

@PeterR: As I recall, I deleted several subcategories of Publications by author but maybe forgot some... Not sure. They are all gone now. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
The Category:Publications of D. Telnov was deleted by Justin ("Koavf") at 16:56, 9 January 2017. This can be seen in the Deletion log. (As a note the author name should have been Dmitry Telnov, not "D. Telnov", but the category was named in accordance with the naming scheme used by its creator, i.e. Mr. Thorpe.)
As for the decision to remove all categories except the ones for museums and authored taxa, @PeterR: I have asked you before and I will ask you again: where can such a decision be found? I can't find a link to any page where we have made such a decision. I do not doubt you but I can't find all of the links on Wikispecies, so please help me. If instead Justin or Franz Xaver can provide me with such a link that is of course very welcome, too. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:11, 9 January 2017 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist: We're in the same boat. I really want to come to an understanding with Peter but I'm having a hard time figuring out what he wants exactly. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Reverted deletions[edit]

I've reverted some of your recent deletions. Please see User talk:Pigsonthewing#Odd link on the CAT:SPEEDY page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Repositories by country categories[edit]

Please can you explain this edit and your edit summary of "no scheme for this"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: These were only redlinks and there is no greater categorization scheme of "x by country"--I don't know that we should have any but I think we should have a discussion about "by country" categories. For instance, we have deleted thousands of categories that are geographic for taxa but we have a few for taxon authorities by country. As I posted on your talk about a different template, if you are in favor of restoration, then I am happy to see you restore it (or do it myself if you'd prefer) and then we can discuss issues related to geography at the Pump. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:42, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Paratype and holotype[edit]

Hi Justin why do these terms redirect to Repositories? Surely they should have hit the Dictionary. I have cured the redirects, but seems odd maybe a misapplied bot? Regards Andyboorman (talk) 20:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: No clue. I just redirected it when I split the repositories article. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
I agree that both "holotype" and "paratype" should redirect to Dictionary. As for the earlier redirects to Repositories, please see VP archive 38: "Holotype" redirecting to the dictionary instead of to the repositories. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:45, 11 January 2017 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist: Thanks. I just redirected a page when I moved it. I want to clean up some of the dross around here. —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Incertae sedis as Taxon Pages[edit]

Hello @Koavf: You have recently created Incertae sedis (Roupaleae) as a redirect from Unassigned Roupaleae. I refer you to the following discussion and poll Incertae sedis on Taxon Pages - the last of a few may I add. Regards Andyboorman (talk) 19:06, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: I think you are mistaken: I did not create the page but simply edited it to have a correctly formed name (i.e. per this comment which I only just now saw: "One final point: the Incertae sedis(Proteoideae) page is wrongly titled, missing a space before the bracket; if consensus is for the page to be kept, it will have to be moved to add the missing space.") I was just putting a space before the parenthesis. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Apologies. I will have a think about this. It might be best to revisit the whole family looking for new material on its classification since our last discussions. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 19:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
@Andyboorman: No problem. As you may know, I'm not knowledgeable about taxonomy, so I have a kind of outsider's perspective on the nuts and bolts of this site. —Justin (koavf)TCM 19:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Confusing deletion[edit]

Zt3777.1.1 This has over 100 transclusions--why did you delete it? —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:57, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Because this reference template is not after our agreements. I Have made a new one after our agreements. If I update species or genera, I update the reference templates to. PeterR (talk) 06:31, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Template agreements I'm still a little confused: did you remake it already? If so, I will replace the old template with the new one to clear out all of these redlinks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
      • I'm not a programmer. So I have done nothing. If you want known more ask Mariusm. PeterR (talk) 17:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC).
        • First you say "I have made a new one", and then you say "I'm not a programmer. So I have done nothing." How can you both make a new template, and also not make a new template?? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC).
          • Peter, when you change a template's name which is used in many pages, please leave a REDIRECT on the old name. Mariusm (talk) 07:31, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
            • Marius, normal I do this, may be I have forgotten it to do with this one. He could sent me a list for updating. PeterR (talk) 07:45, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
        • On 18 july 2015 i have make a new one for Zt3777.1.1 namely Yang, Wang & Li, 2015. I have replace the new template by the species. See Edosa bicolor . total 24 pieces. PeterR (talk) 05:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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Justin, as you know the {{Zt3777.1.1}} template has over 100 transclusions rather than just 24. Please see User talk:PeterR#Confusing deletion for more recent information regarding this issue. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: I did see that. Still confused. But yes, there were 100 redlinks, so something needed to be done. I don't have the expertise of you or Peter, so I'm glad someone could confirm and fill in the reference. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:21, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Application for Checkuser[edit]

Referring to earlier discussions regarding a local Checkuser policy, I herebye apply to get Checkuser user rights, although we havnt reached a consensus reg Checkuser policy, but I want to give it a try if I can get the required votes. For a request to succeed a minimum of 25 support votes and an 80% positive vote are required (subject to the normal bureaucrat discretion). Requests for checkuser run for two weeks, and I ask kindly that somone starts the poll, like we do for adminship applications.

Please also note that CheckUser actions are logged, but for privacy reasons the logs are only visible to other Checkusers. Because of this, Wikispecies must always have no fewer than two checkusers, for mutual accountability. I dont want to suggest anyone, but hope that someone feel inspired and will step forward and also apply for checkuser.

My request to the Wikispecies community is here

Dan Koehl (talk) 01:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Another application for Check User[edit]

As pointed out above by User:Dan Koehl, we need at least two Check Users for this wiki. I am nominating myself and would be happy to receive any feedback that you have to give (positive, negative, or neutral). Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Koavf. Thanks. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:08, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Third application for checkuser[edit]

Further to recent messages, I am also offering to serve, so that we have three checkuser operators, to ensure adequate coverage in case one of the others is unavailable. Please comment at Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Pigsonthewing. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Additional Checkuser Application[edit]

I also have added my name to those willing to be a checkuser. Please see my application here Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Faendalimas. I listed this yeasterday but have been encouraged to do a mass mail. I would also take the opportunity to make sure everyone knows that any editor can vote but that it is imperative that as many do as possible, for all 4 of the current applicants, please have your say. Checkuser voting has strict policy rules regarding number of votes. You will have other messages from the other Users concerned you can also read about it in the discussion on the Village Pump - Wikispecies:Village_Pump#Application_for_Checkuser. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Standing for role of checkUser[edit]

Like some of our colleagues (who I support), I am offering to serve as a checkuser, not least to ensure adequate coverage in case one of the others is unavailable.

Please comment at Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Pigsonthewing.

[Apologies if you receive a duplicate notification; I wasn't aware of Wikispecies:Mail list/active users, and sent my original notification to the list of administrators instead.] MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Templates[edit]

Koavf,

Whats happened with the templates from Rikio Sato? PeterR (talk) 16:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@PeterR: I don't understand your question. That page isn't missing any templates except a few for names (e.g Rikio Sato Sato, r.) —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:38, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I see the problem is over. All the author names where in read, Because the capital letters after the name became small letters. PeterR (talk) 16:17, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
@PeterR: Yes, they are just templates that did not exist. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

RFC on Checkusers[edit]

With one week to go I wanted to remind everyone of the importance of voting on the current CheckUser applications. They can all be found together on a single RFC: Wikispecies:Requests_for_Comment#Checkusers.

It is extremely important with votes such as this for everyone to be involved. There are strict rules in the Wikimedia Foundation Policy guidelines on these votes. I would urge people to have a good understanding of what a CheckUser does. This can be read up on here on the page discussing CheckUser's Wikispecies:Checkusers. Links on this page will take you to other policy information on Meta, HowTo for our site etc.

I would also urge people to look at our own policy development and some past discussion on this can be found here: Wikispecies_talk:Local_policies#Local_CU_Policy.

Wikispecies has in the past had issues that has required the intervention that is supported by the ability to do a CheckUser. Many of us are aware of this. The capacity to do this ourselves greatly speeds up this process. Although SockPuppetry can sometimes be identified without using a CheckUser in order to do the necessary steps to stop it or even prevent it requires evidence. We all know that sockpupets can do significant damage.

This is an important step for Wikispecies. It is a clear demonstration we can run ourselves as a Wiki Project part of Wiki Media Foundation. When I and several others first discussed this we knew it would be difficult at the time to meet all the criteria. We have only now decided to try and get this feature included in Wikispecies. By doing this it can lead to other areas where Wikispecies can further develop its own policies. In some areas we have unique needs, different to the other Wiki's. It is timely we were able to develop all these policies.

Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

CSS[edit]

How's your understanding of CSS? I have put {{Archives}} on my talk page, having imported the template code from en.Wikipedia. As you can see, compared to my talk page there, it's misaligned. I'm not sure what CSS needs to be imported. Can you help, please? I've also asked for an archiving bot to start work on Wikispecies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:48, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Good, not great. As you can see, my first attempt didn't work but I'll keep at this. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:49, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Second time's a charm. I'm sure there are more elegant solutions but I woke up nine minutes ago and I have work in 70. I can take a look again if you want something prettier or simpler but this will probably have the behavior you want and is valid CSS/HTML. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:53, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. That's working, but I was actually thinking of importing the styles (in common.css?)from en.Wikipedia. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:15, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: Ah, yes--that is what you explicit wrote above. Let me take a look when I'm back from work. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:25, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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@Pigsonthewing: I have imported several styles from en.wp to MediaWiki:Common.css. The template that you imported uses several classes and I just copied the associated styling for all of those. It maybe/kinda/should work but since it's CSS and I'm doing it, I'm sure that it won't. At the very least the <div> float works for now... I can definitely keep at it if you want. I actually have some web design that I am doing at the moment, so it's nice to sort through these frustrations. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:40, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Wonders never cease It worked. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:41, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Localization[edit]

Hi! You made a small mistake when you copied the hungarian version of words at Wikispecies:Localization.

Please, change Editor to Szerkesztő and Editors to Szerkesztők (because the Járőr means Patroller see: Wikispecies:Patrollers/hu for demonstration), and please change the Type data to Típus adat.

Thank you! BanKris (talk) 10:34, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@BanKris: Actually, that page is mostly made by hand, but you'll notice that the line "Editor" is all in blue for every language because that term didn't need to be translated here at Wikispecies. It is translated over at translatewiki: and is a part of the MediaWiki software itself. (You can see this for yourself if you use other languages that no one here has translated like, "MediaWiki:Editor/br", which is Breton.) If MediaWiki:Editor/hu is incorrect, then it's incorrect across all MediaWiki sites. Go ahead and check any random wiki like, s:fr:MediaWiki:Editor/hu (which is the French Wikisource). So I'm a little reluctant to change that one since it is so widely used all over MediaWiki. Does that explanation make sense? —Justin (koavf)TCM 11:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Request for vote reg use of BASEPAGENAME[edit]

The previous discussions regarding if we should subst:ing BASEPAGENAME and change all [[BASEPAGENAME]] into [[susbt:BASEPAGENAME]] did not really reach a consensus.

Please vote here on the Village pump!

If you are not sure on your opinion, you can read and join the discussion about the claimed advantages and disadvantages of using BASEPAGENAME

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Koavf[edit]

You can close it and say something like "The poll is closed and now going through deliberation. Please do not vote on it." You added summary of the result and it gives the appearance that the whole thing is a done deal. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:58, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@OhanaUnited: I posted that it is pending any community discussion the first time around and now I have added space below the poll for commentary. That seems plenty sufficient. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:01, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Acari deletion[edit]

Oh jeeze, I did that? >>;;; I think I had left it open after transferring some refs and I ended up deleting by accident while working through a bunch of speedies (same reason that Candidates for speedy deletion ended up deleted twice itself). Apologies, and thanks for noticing! Circeus (talk) 21:44, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Circeus: Accidents happen--that's why we have more than one editor! Thanks, man. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:50, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Koiwaya template[edit]

In view of the duplication it seemed sensible to have only one reference to this paper. I have restored it, but we now have two templates for effectively the same reference. I will see if we cannot set all links to just one version before disposing of the other. Accassidy (talk) 10:22, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Have reviewed all the links and brought them down to one template., deleting the duplicate. Accassidy (talk) 10:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
@Accassidy: Not sure if you knew this but you can redirect templates so that {{A}} is made up of #redirect[[Template:B]] and every time that someone inserts {{A}} into a page, the content from {{B}} will display. If I see more redundant templates, then I will certainly try to merge them (and, of course, fixing the redirect links is better but not necessary). Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
I know now. will try to keep it in mind...Accassidy (talk) 12:51, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

CU[edit]

Hi Koavf. Please take a look at your email and send me a reply. Thanks. Trijnstel (talk) 13:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Challenger categories[edit]

My Challenger categories have no relationship to former geographic categories. They are integrally connected to discovery and naming of taxa and are thus central to our work. Please restore them. Neferkheperre (talk) 17:53, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Nyctemera (Nyctemera)[edit]

Koavf,

Please can you tell me what is wrong with Template:Nyctemera (Nyctemera)? PeterR (talk) 16:40, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

@PeterR: You put the template inside itself. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:21, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
@PeterR: More specifically you accidentally put curly braces around the taxon name instead of apostrophes — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Circeus (talkcontribs).