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Albanian language

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Hello, Tommy!
I'm an admin of the Albanian Wikipedia. Lately I was updating our homepage and I was putting a footer for it with all the Wikipedia sister projects (like most projects have). After I did that, I was checking that its links worked correctly and they all did beside the one for Wikisource and Wikispecies. The Wikispecies' link apparently leads here, which seems to be a page continously deleted and recreated. At this point I'm a bit confused: I had always thought Wikispecies was a project similar to Commons or Wikidata but apparently there are languages for it like Wikipedia? And apparently the Albanian one doesn't exist? And why is the supposedly Albanian main page for it continously recreated and deleted in the English version?
Can you help me with some information in regard to this? — Klein Muçi (talk) 06:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello Klein Muçi, and thank you for your message! It's true that the core of Wikispecies is supposed to be as language independent as possible (as explained on for example Meta-Wiki's Wikispecies page). However there are a few exception where we do have language-specific variations of the pages; most notably the Main Page, the Help section (and its sub-pages), the Village Pump, and a few others. But taxon pages, author pages, reference templates and other such pages related to the project's core scope (i.e. taxonomy) are always supposed to be language neutral.
The Faqja kryesore Main Page in Albanian is a sad story, one that I wish we could have sorted out a long time ago. The first version of it was created way back in 2012, but unfortunately the page has a history of being very poorly translated (most of it was almost always still in English), and on top of that it's been frequently hit by vandalism. For example, last year alone the page was reverted 27 times by either Wikispecies administrators, Global administrators, or Global rollbackers. A few of the edits was even automatically identified as harmful by the Wikimedia abuse filter and therefore automatically disallowed by our server.
Again though, having a fully translated Albanian Main Page would be most welcome, and if you want to you are free to recreate it as long as it follows the same basic format as the standard Main Page (including other language versions). The Faqja kryesore page is today semi-protected and can't be edited by unregistered or new and/or unconfirmed users, but I have taken the liberty to add you to the Wikispecies confirmed user's group. Hence the semi-protection wont pose a problem. A word of warning though, if you would like to recreate the page: many of the more "problem-ridden" Wikispecies pages are kept under a very close watch by our admins, and the new version of the page is likely to be swiftly deleted again if it's not up to standard. It might therefore be a good idea to first create it as a sub-page of your own user page (for example at User:Klein Muçi/Faqja kryesore) and use that as a "working copy". It will not be deleted and you can work on it in your own pace, and the data can then be moved/copied to the proper location once it's ready. I will be glad to help during the entire process (information, coding, templates, etc.), but sadly I can't speak any Albanian so I can't give any hands-on help with the actual translation. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC).Reply
I see. So basically Faqja kryesore should just be an identic translation of Main page? Am I right? — Klein Muçi (talk) 04:47, 26 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes. You can find the current version here: Kezdőlap. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC).Reply

Myriospora (disambiguation)

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Dear Tommy, could you please edit this page Myriospora (disambiguation), since I could not delete superfluous word 'disambiguation'. It should be applied to the descriptors of the page, but it is possibly in error remained in the name of page. I recently edited similar page Acystis, but this one is too difficult for me. The same is true for Tricystis (disambiguation), where the incorrect spelling of Yurij Ivanovich Poljansky was used. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 15:18, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dear Anna, I will be happy to make all the necessary changes to Myriospora (disambiguation) and other pages connected to it. It must be done in the correct way, otherwise there is a risk of over-writing the current Myriospora page. Unfortunately I haven't got time to do it until tomorrow, since right now I'm going to visit my fiancée's mother. She is old and lives alone out of town, and needs help with some jobs around the house.
By the way, on the Fritz Schaudinn page. Is the cited "Zool. Jahrb., Abt. Anat." the same as "Zool. Jahrb. Abt. Anat. Ontog. Tiere", i.e. Zoologische Jahrbücher. Abteilung für Anatomie und Ontogenie der Tiere (ISSN 0044-5177)?
Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:47, 18 February 2023 (UTC).Reply
Dear Tommy: you are correct, changes are necessary. "Zool. Jahrb., Abt. Anat." is the same as "Zool. Jahrb. Abt. Anat. Ontog. Tiere". Two Schaudinn's refs were "borrowed" from somewhere in the WikiSpecies pages of taxa for further edits, since they are both not complete. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 16:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Eponyms OK?

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Dear Tommy, I noticed a somewhat strange format of the eponym names for recently added author: Konrad Stanisław Wróblewski. Maybe you could suggest any needed action to correct/improve? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 13:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dear @Anna, I can only find Trypanosoma wroblewskii in the list of Wróblewski eponyms, and it looks fine to me. Are there any other problems you refer to, and that I have missed? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:38, 7 May 2023 (UTC).Reply
Dear Tommy, as I see now, all is OK, but it looks different at the time of my edits. Perhaps, the system was changed, and no problems are now visible. Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 18:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Darienko

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Dear Tommy, I need badly to rename the author's page with 77 taxa and numerous pubs: Tatyana Darienko to Tatyana Mikhailovna Darienko. Maybe you could help in any way? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 11:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dear @Anna, yes, I will take care of it during this weekend. I'm very sorry I haven't fixed all of the other author name issues you have requested the past month or so, but I've been very busy in my "offline" life. I will have all of the author name fixes done by Monday though (or earlier). Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:30, 5 May 2023 (UTC).Reply

Hada

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Dear Tommy, I need badly to make a separate disambiguation page for Japanese author(s) HADA and Hada (genus): Hada and now newly created Yoshine Hada. I expect more Hada authors in zoology, so a separate disamb page is needed. Maybe you could help in any way? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 11:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

 Done. Dear Anna, please see the hat-note (with link) that I've added to the top of the Hada genus page. In the future more authors named Hada can be added to the new "Hada" disambiguation page. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC).Reply
Dear Tommy, it is great! Thank you for support! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 07:34, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Category:Eponyms

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Dear Tommy Kronkvist,

I noticed that the second line is not working correctly in some newly created categories of Eponyms. For example Category:Eponyms of Charles Richard and Category:Eponyms of Wiktor Godlewski, but Category:Eponyms of Gustaaf Schlegel is correct. Hunu (talk) 12:45, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

I also had the same situation as above with Konrad Stanisław Wróblewski. erhaps, this is a system bug of some new names. Anna IFPNI Staff (talk) 18:14, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Hunu and IFPNI Staff: I can't replicate this error. Looks okay to me. Perhaps it's been corrected, or maybe I'm misunderstanding you? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC).Reply
Thank you for answer. It's nice that you notice it too Hunu (talk) 20:08, 11 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
No: I see the following text - citation: List of eponyms of Charles Richard. This is a system bug. The working language of the page is Ukrainian. I tried a different language (French), the bug is still persisting: Liste d'éponymes de Charles Richard. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 07:39, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

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1) Error in second line

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@Hunu and IFPNI Staff: In my computer, the second line in the English version of Category:Eponyms of Charles Richard says:

with a "blue" wiki link to the author page. This is as all correct, and expected. However, if I change to for example French, the text instead says:

  • Liste d'éponymes de [[Charles Richard]].

and does not show a working link to the author page. Instead the bracket symbols [[ and ]] are shown onscreen, without creating a link.

Is this the problem you are referring to? Or is there any other problem too?

2) Ukrainian version

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On a secondary matter in regards to @Anna's statement, I don't think there is a Ukrainian translation of this template yet. However I can create one quite easily. What would the correct Ukrainian translation be? (By the way, the Russian one is here: Template:Eponyms of person/i18n/ru.)

Of course, creating a Ukrainian version will not fix the system error, but it would be nice to have a working Ukrainian version automatically running in the near future, when the system error (or whatever error it is...) gets corrected. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:22, 12 May 2023 (UTC).Reply

Dear Tommy, As for (1), I still see different erroneous picture in the link itself: between Richard and "]]" there is a symbol |. It is strange, but when I am copying/writing right now this citation there the link looks finally fine Charles Richard. (I never inserted this superfluous symbol | in the link, it was generated automatically by a system). This is strange and crazy looking, but in English, Ukrainian and Russian versions this bug is still persisting right now. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 09:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Dear Tommy, as for (2), I made a translation:
Це переклад сторінки Template:Eponyms of person/i18n, вiн готовий на 100%.
Інші мови:
Список епонімів для [[{{{1}}}]].
УВАГА: Будь ласка, не використовуйте цей шаблон безпосередньо! Це тільки для перекладу. Замість цього використовуйте шаблон {{Eponyms of person}}
Thank you! Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 09:40, 13 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Template:J.J.Verm & Kindler, 2015

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Hi Tommy, the template was quite a stub. You could use https://bibliorchidea.com/ in order to create complete templates regarding orchid literature. Unfortunately it is not updated anymore as Jenny passed away. Best wishes Badlydrawnboy22 (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Martynov

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Dear Tommy, I have found two identical names of different authors Martynov. I made a few edits, but need badly your assistance with taxa renaming. In botany (IPNI) we have a rule to use (bis) addition after the name of identical person (f.e. A.Murray bis). Perhaps, in WS we need to create a similar way for these two authors? Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 20:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Zevina and full names

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Dear Tommy, could you please help me to rename 45 pages of Category:Galina B. Zevina taxa to Category:Galina Benitsianovna Zevina taxa; and Category:Oleg Grigor'evich Kussakin taxa to Category:Oleg Grigorievich Kussakin taxa. Anna Pavlova IFPNI Staff (talk) 20:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS

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Dear interface administrator,

This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.

There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.

As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the policy talk page.

Have a great day!

Samuel (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Security team 12:08, 10 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Two pages

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Dear Tommy, There are two pages on WIKIDATA: Motacilla feldegg (Q17561447) [1], and Motacilla flava feldegg (Q21401424) [2]. I replaced all important information from (Q17561447) to (Q21401424). It's would better to delete one (Q17561447). Do you have rights for that? Hunu (talk) 22:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello @Hunu. No I do not. Also, it looks like Motacilla feldegg is the protonym of Motacilla flava feldegg? In that case Q17561447 shouldn't be deleted, since it is a valid taxon name. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:01, 17 August 2023 (UTC).Reply

Euspinolia militaris

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Can you spend some time trying to find a source for the taxon author and taxon publication year of Euspinolia militaris? Thanks! FooBarBaz (talk) 20:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@FooBarBaz I've saved Tommy the trouble and added in the original reference for you. Unfortunately the article is not freely available online, but you can search for "Euspinolia militaris" in the volume the article's in through Google Book's Snippet view: [3] Monster Iestyn (talk) 20:47, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank youboth for the heads-up and cooperation. Thanks also to Andy Mabbett for swiftly creating the {{Mickel, 1938}} reference template out of Monster Iestyn's added information. –Tommy Kronkvist, 08:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC).Reply

Cosmetidae

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Dear Tommy. You've made some new edits on the family Cosmetidae. I'm slowly working though that, but happy to discuss how to format the family level page. I was being a bit creative about how to annotate some genera. Basically, only a few are in some recently revised subfamilies, most genera are still unplaced - only at genus level. (mostly after being excluded from former placement in broader Cosmetinae, or some a broader Discosomaticinae). Anyway, the revised (currently published) scheme i'm matching with is here - https://wcolite.com I'm a working on that other source site along with the authors of the taxon revisions, point being i'm trying to get them consistent. Perhaps for wikispecies the simpliest is to just list the subfamilies then list all the genera (regardless if they are in a subfamily or not - most or not). Anyway, i edited in all subfamilies now - if genera are not in those eight as now defined, then they are unplaced as "Cosmetidae insertae sedis" Sjl197 (talk) 02:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

Dear Sjl197. Thank you for your message. I'm a bit pressed for time right now, but will be happy to get back to you in a day or two with. However, right off the bat I have these two reflections:
  • You're right in that it would probably be best to first list all the subfamilies, then followed by a list of all the genera regardless of subfamily. That's the standard Wikispecies way of doing it.
Note: Of course, all the generic daughter taxa of each subfamily should also be listed on their respective subfamily pages.
  • Currently the Cosmetidae page includes a link to the genus Gnidia. However, this taxon name is a hemihomonym of Gnidia L. (1753; Plantae) and Gnidia Koch, 1839 (Animalia). The current page named Gnidia regards the plant genus and thus should be renamed to Gnidia Linnaeus, and we should create a page Gnidia Koch for the arachnids. Then the page Gnidia should be recreated as a disambiguation page like e.g. the Atossa page.
Note: We usually name pages for (hemi)homonyms using the syntax "[[TaxonName AuthorName]]" rather than "[[TaxonName ParentTaxon]]" since the taxonomy may change if revised, but the author names stay the same.
Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 08:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC).Reply
Thanks for your thoughts, especially if busy with other things these days. If you'd look back at family when have a moment then great. Currently the 'subfamilies' is duplicated, but their component genera should be right - but please don't delete the lower redundant part - at least yet, as having those expanded out is now helping me 'know where i am' to get them input on several resources simultaneously. I might however have put a couple in wrong alphabetical position in the complete list. As for the Gnidia disambiguation, i've now made that in format as best i could approximate that example. Thanks, i was just trying to understand how to do such disambiguations in last days, and found poor consistency for the layout made by others, and little to help define a format on the general wiki help-pages. Sjl197 (talk) 23:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

MPUJ_ENT

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Moved from: Tommy Kronkvist's main user page.

Dear Tommy. I have troubles with MPUJ_ENT. In Holotype I can add this Museum. In Category MPUJ_ENT I can add it, but if I put on the button publish changes the _ is gone. Please can you controll this or an other specialist? see Nativus carare. PeterR (talk) 08:56, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello PeterR. The problem is that in page names, the MediaWiki server software automatically converts all underscores ("_") to blank spaces (" "). More information can be found here, but please note that the document is very technical. I think that there is a solution, but right know I don't have enough information to solve the problem. Please give me a few days, and I'll return back to you. Perhaps Koavf knows how to solve this? Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist 09:26, 29 October 2023 (UTC).Reply
@PeterR: Did my edits just now solve the problem? Sorry, but I'm not clear on what is wrong. See Category:MPUJ_ENT. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Koavf: I think that the problem is that the underscore is part of the MPUJ_ENT official acronym for the repository, and that the server software automatically strips away the underscore when we try to create the pages. Your fix to Category:MPUJ_ENT seems to have fixed it though, at least visually. Thanks! We should also create a repository page [[MPUJ_ENT]] in main namespace, but unfortunately I don't know the full name of the repository, hence hesitate to create the page. I think it's the entomological collections at Museo Javeriano de Historia Natural Lorenzo Uribe S.J. in Colombia, but I'm not sure of the details. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 12:40, 31 October 2023 (UTC).Reply
The same hack will work in the main namespace, but yes, we cannot create a page title that actually includes an underscore, we can only simulate it. cf. (e.g.) wikt:en:Unsupported_titles/`lowbar`#Translingual. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:23, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Admin Review

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Heya, could you please comment on Wikispecies:Administrators/Inactivity_Section/February_2024 particularly any translation admins in there. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Scott! Sorry for being offline for almost a month: family matters. I'll look into the admin inactivity stuff later today or tomorrow.
–Cheers, Tommy Kronkvist, 18:33, 12 March 2024 (UTC).Reply
Hi Tommy, admin reviews done all to be removed have or are in process. TA needs to be removed from Kaganer which I will leave to you. We need to update the list. I have left messages on each users page informing them. You may wish to check TA for AlvaroMolina its unclear if it was removed by the Stewards. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Scott:  Done, including updates of the List of Administrators and List of Translation Administrators. Many, many thanks for all your efforts and good work you've put in to this whole process. –Tommy Kronkvist, 10:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC).Reply

Disambiguation

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Above in the talk, you'd given me advice on disambiguation. There's an algae Chondracanthus and a parasitic crustacean animal of same genus name. I just built basics of the latter as Chondracanthus Delaroche. For the algae, would the next step then be a move for that say to revised name "Chondracanthus Kutzing"? (then fix its taxobox links etc), then modify the now ambiguious disambiguation page Chondracanthus (i.e. modify redirect page to specify both). Is that it? Sjl197 (talk) 12:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Sjl197: Yes (yes), and yes. Please go ahead and make the changes. (However, I can see to it in a day or two, if you don't want to.)
Tommy Kronkvist, 14:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC).Reply
 Done. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 12:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Thiotrix! @Sjl197: Please note the German "ü" (for Friedrich Traugott Kützing) in Chondracanthus Kützing.
–Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 12:18, 1 April 2024 (UTC).Reply

Megascops alagoensis and stangiae

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Hello Tommy, I noticed these two pages were recently created by a new user contributor as full species and you have added alagoensis to the genus page. Meanwhile, these two taxons recently described (2021) are not yet listed by major classifications, nor IOC neither Clements/eBird. More than that, the South American Classification Committee has rejected the proposal of recognition. I think, based on our criteria to follow IOC, that is somewhat premature for us to assume them as valid full species. Same user opened new pages for Bubo milesi and Ninox leucopsis, which yes, they are both listed by IOC. What do you suggest to do in this case? Greetings Hector Bottai (talk) 17:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hello Hector Bottai, and thank you for your message. Lately, I've edited many newly created pages mostly because they were very badly formatted (often bordering to vandalism). Checking the actual taxonomy is something I had planned to do in the next following days. We recently have had many dubious edits (and page creations) by IP users, see for example these:
There are many, many more, and they all pose a problem. Most of these IPs are based in Toronto, Canada. Some of them are now blocked.
To answer your question about the (currently?) non-valid taxa, I think that we should either delete the pages, or at least mark the taxa as disputed using the {{Disputed}} template. More templates that may be useful can be found in Category:Pictograms and Category:Name status templates.
Regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 17:36, 12 April 2024 (UTC).Reply
Thanks Tommy. I wouldn't delete, the user looks to edit in good faith, I will send a message explaining our criteria for Aves. I am inclined to treat them either as dubious taxa as full species on the genus page, or, as suggested by Avibase, alagoensis as ssp of atricapilla and stangiae as ssp of watsonii. My concern is that SACC not even considered the treatment as ssp. So the "dubious" and "disputed" seems the best solution going forward. Agree? Regards. Hector Bottai (talk) 18:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Hector Bottai: Yes, I do. –Tommy Kronkvist, 18:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC).Reply
✅ All fixed. Regards. Hector Bottai (talk) 02:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

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IP block

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Hi Tommy. I blocked the IP due to the seriousness of the offense. I realise that WS does not usually indefinitely block IPs. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 10:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Andy Boorman: I know that you're aware of our blocking policy, and I agree that the edits from this IP were particularly offensive. Nonetheless, most IP addresses are frequently redistributed and I think it's a good thing that we don't block any future users from editing, simply because they've "inherited" an IP address from a culprit of the past. All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC).Reply
Thanks. Fair enough. I noticed that another attempt was made to vandalise the account from an IP address. We are now alerted! Andyboorman (talk) 09:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Synonym programme

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I have had a go at implementing your suggestions. Seems no cure. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 18:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the update, @Andy. I've added a note to your question at Rainer Rillke's talk page at Commons, explaining the problem in a bit more detail (including links to the files involved). Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 12:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC).Reply