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This space is for anyone who needs to contact an administrator ("sysop") for actions such as protecting a page, deleting spam, or blocking vandals.
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Category:Wikispecies protected edit requests[edit]

Dear admins! Please check Category:Wikispecies protected edit requests. --Kaganer (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kaganer: The category lists 54 pages in the MediaWiki talk page namespace, but no pages in the MediaWiki namespace itself. On what grounds should these talk pages be edit protected? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:02, 16 September 2017 (UTC).
@Tommy Kronkvist:These pages related with Wikispecies:Localization. Talkpages contains a proposed translations for related MediaWiki messages. Need to move them to these local messages. --Kaganer (talk) 23:11, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
And there is also two related requests from me: first and second.--Kaganer (talk) 23:14, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

I have already taken care of all the pending protected edit requests in that category. Regards. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 02:20, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

New request for adminship: Kaganer[edit]

I thought that I could not do work with translations without administrative rights. I ask for your support: Requests for adminship#Kaganer and Requests for translation adminship#Kaganer. --Kaganer (talk) 23:36, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kaganer: m:Meta:Translation_administrators/ru? —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Request updated. If in this project source pages is protected, that for improving markup needs admin rights with "translation admin" rights. I ask both flags at once.--Kaganer (talk) 23:47, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
Otherwise, I'll permanently disturb everyone with my requests for changing protected pages ;) --Kaganer (talk) 23:53, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
@Kaganer: Please see my answer to your request at Wikispecies talk:Administrators. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 02:29, 17 September 2017 (UTC).

@Koavf: Global account information for Kaganer. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:29, 17 September 2017 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: No blocks and advanced user rights on many projects. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:25, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Indeed. The user was a global-sysop between October 2014 and November 2016, and is currently Admin + Translation admin on six different wikis, with a total of +300,000 edits since 2008. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:48, 17 September 2017 (UTC).

IP block[edit]

I suppose, it is not desirable to block IP addresses indefinitely. I have changed some indefinite blocks to a shorter period, but added a range block for, which should cover all these IP addresses. Regards --Franz Xaver (talk) 18:00, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

I checked your block log and it all seems okay to me. As for that IP is already globally blocked and has been globally blocked no less than 29 times before that,(verify) so I don't think any Wikispecies users have any issues with you blocking it locally as well.
Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:26, 29 September 2017 (UTC).
Is that who shows up frequently and vandalizes numerous pages with one swearword? I have blocked that one at least twice. Very happy to see it blocked whenever. Neferkheperre (talk) 22:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it's this one. And I had to realise that a range block with ##/19 or ##/20 is not sufficient to block this vandal. --Franz Xaver (talk) 22:48, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Additional information from RIPE database query: route Kronkvist (talk), 01:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC).

For information, there are a number of IP addresses that are blocked indefinitely: [1]. Korg (talk) 10:28, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

I propose to unblock these IP addresses, at least such, that are blocked since many years. --Franz Xaver (talk) 12:19, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Many of the "ancient" blocks (2006 and prior) are blocked for possibly being an open proxy, which is based from this meta policy on no open proxies. Based on the information from that page, the collateral damage appears to be aimed towards projects where government censors certain political opinions. I highly doubt that Wikispecies fall within this category. As for the indef IP blocks from 2011 to 2014, I think they should be lifted. OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:01, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

Xwiki vandal[edit]

FYI: (talkcontribsblockall projects) . Blocked on Commons. --Hedwig in Washington (talk) 07:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Now blocked here as well.Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC).

Global user stats and WHOIS[edit]

Hi. Just wanted to inform fellow admins that the WMFLabs GUC tool now (or has it always?) also provide WHOIS data for IP users, see for example (i.e. IP of Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.) This information is not shown for logged-in users, e.g.

–Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:27, 3 December 2017 (UTC).

Request for AWB access for User:TheStoneBot[edit]

Please grant AWB access for User:TheStoneBot. This is my additional account for mass changes translation units through AWB. See request page.--Kaganer (talk) 11:03, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@Kaganer, TheStoneBot: Bot approved for trial. See Wikispecies:Bots/Requests for approval#Bots in a trial period for details. Please use that page for further discussions. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:36, 10 December 2017 (UTC).
After a successful trial period the bot was approved in December 17, 2017. See the User rights log for details. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 02:59, 19 December 2017 (UTC).

Cross-wiki vandalism, amok mode[edit]

Please execute Special:Nuke/ Thanks. --Schniggendiller (talk) 01:52, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Nuked and indefinitely blocked. This one recurs frequently, Neferkheperre (talk) 02:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Good and swift work @Neferkheperre:, however since blocking IP addresses indefinitely is generally unrecommended by Wikimedia (see for instance IPBLENGTH @ enWP), perhaps we should consider changing the block to a few months or so? As you point out this specific vandal is frequently reappearing here, but as far as I know always from different IPs (though all of them are within IP ranges assigned to a Turkish ISP named "TurkNet Iletisim Hizmetleri A.S").[2][3] Hence an indefinite IP block probably isn't effective against this particular vandal, but might instead stop other users from editing, should they be assigned the "" IP by that ISP in the future. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:53, 31 December 2017 (UTC).
An abuse filter could be helpful. Regards --Schniggendiller (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Good point @Tommy Kronkvist:. I changed block to 6 months. Probably better idea, as IPs involved may be hosted by internet cafes or libraries. Neferkheperre (talk) 14:00, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposal for change of policy text[edit]

I propose we add information to the Enforcing policy subsection on "Wikispecies:Policy". The current wording is as follows:

Enforcing policy

In the case of misbehaving editors, such policy may be enforced to keep the community in good order.

  • Warning
    • This is usually the first step to remind editors to behave properly.
  • Block
    • Users will have their editing privilege removed for a period of time (or indefinitely) as determined by an administrator. The blocked editors are still able to access and view Wikispecies, but unable to make any changes to it. It is not necessary for editors to receive a warning prior a block if the administrator believes that there is a clear indication that the editor is disruptive.
(…followed by the "When not to lock" subsection.)

I propose to change that into the following, mainly with additions from English Wikipedia's Blocking IP addresses: Block lengths:

Enforcing policy

In the case of misbehaving editors, such policy may be enforced to keep the community in good order.

  • Warning
    • This is not mandatory, but usually the first step to politely remind editors to behave properly. An initial warning may be followed by up by another if the editor persists in not following Wikispecies policies and guidelines.
  • Block
    • Users will have their editing privilege removed for a period of time (or indefinitely) as determined by an administrator. The blocked editors are still able to access and view Wikispecies, but unable to make any changes to it. It is not necessary for editors to receive a warning prior to a block if the administrator believes that there is a clear indication that the editor is disruptive.
    • While a fairly common action when dealing with recurrent vandalism by registered and logged in users, note that IP addresses (used by users not logged in) are very rarely indefinitely blocked. Many IP addresses are dynamically assigned and change frequently from one person to the next, and even static IP addresses are periodically reassigned or have different users. In cases of long-term vandalism from an IP address, blocks over a period of months or years are considered instead. Long-term blocks are never used for isolated incidents, regardless of the nature of their policy violation. IP addresses used by blatant vandals, sockpuppets and people issuing legal threats are never blocked for long periods unless there is evidence that the IP address has been used by the same user for a long time. Such evidence may only be obtained by a Wikispecies Checkuser. A checkuser investigation is only intended as a last resort for difficult cases, but requests can be made here.
    • Open proxies are generally reported to the Meta-Wiki Stewards and blocked globally for the length of time they are likely to remain open on the same IP address, which in most cases is likely to be only a few months. Requests for global unblocking of such IP addresses can be made via the same Meta-Wiki Stewards page mentioned above.
(…again, of course followed by the "When not to lock" subsection.)

What are your views on this? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC).

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support I agree with this particularly the points on IP users, it is pointless to indef block IP`s if it becomes an issue it can be looked at on a case by case basis. I gather this came up from discussions on other pages. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 17:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Much clearer. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 13:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Neferkheperre (talk) 13:34, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support. Yes. I recently saw some IPs getting blocked indef, which didn't make much sense. OhanaUnitedTalk page 21:13, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Franz Xaver (talk) 21:20, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support Although it has been 2 weeks since this was proposed, I just realized and since no one has modified the policy until now, I would like to take advantage of my support here, effectively the IP addresses should never be blocked indefinitely, if they perform persistent vandalism, they can be increasing the block. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 02:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Tommy Kronkvist: I think this has support enough to be accepted, so my suggestion is close and make it happen. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 00:58, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Agreed: two weeks and 100% approval. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately I've been far too busy with non-Wikimedia work lately, but as a result of your reminders I've now made the changes. Thanks. As a final note the Wikispecies:Policy page now needs to be re-translated. I've made a note about this on the Translation Administrators' Noticeboard. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:43, 19 January 2018 (UTC).

Circular redirects[edit]

Papilio mechowianus and Papilio (Druryia) mechowianus appear to be circular, This typically needs an admin action to resolve a single target. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:13, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

It only needs an admin if a deletion is required (or if one of the pages is protected, which doesn't apply here). The issue can be solved by anyone, by redirecting the pages to a page about the actual taxon; or by replacing the contents of one of them with the good data. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:43, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Also, Catalogue of Life: 2017 Annual Checklist (via GloBIS GART 2013) lists the species as Papilio mechowiana Dewitz, 1885 rather than Papilio mechowianus Dewitz, 1885. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:10, 19 January 2018 (UTC).
To complicate matters, Papilio mechowiana currently redirects to Papilio mechowianus. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:52, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Papilio (Druryia) mechowianus was redirected to Papilio mechowianus by User:Brya on 6 January this year, in this edit, which I have undone for now, so at least the last published content is available and findable. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:55, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
I did not take into account that there was not just one, but two mistakes. - Brya (talk) 04:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)