User talk:Nytexcome

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Formatting of wikispecies pages[edit]

Hello Nytexcome, and thank you for your contributions to Wikispecies. Please read Help:General Wikispecies for our formatting rules, and especially Help:Taxonavigation section, how the "Taxonavigation section" should look like (we use templates for the parent taxon). Unlike Wikipedia, please add all references into the "References section". See how I did it on Emiliana and Tropiduchinae.
To make way for genus Emiliana (Tropiduchidae), I have deleted the incorrect redirect to Emiliania (Chromista). If you need further help, just ask at our discussion forum at Wikispecies:Village Pump. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 12:08, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

@Nytexcome: For an example of our recommended format for taxon pages, please use this diff. for reference. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:14, 14 November 2018 (UTC).

How to work with templates for parent taxa[edit]

Hello Nytexcome, if you want to insert another parent taxon, like the subfamily Tropiduchinae, it is not at all necessary to edit all the subpages of this subfamily. You just have to edit the templates for the few tribes of this subfamily (direct children taxa). Look at my edit for Template:Eutropistini. I replaced the parent template Tropiduchidae by Tropiduchinae. If this is a red link, you can create a new template, see Template:Tropiduchinae for an example. (See also Help:Taxonavigation section). If you need more explanation about templates, don't hesitate to ask. I know this may be a bit complicated for new editors, but indeed it is a very comfortable system. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 11:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

and please do not use BASEPAGENAME, this was an old way of editing that should no longer be used. --Thiotrix (talk) 11:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Please look at my discussion page for my answers of your questions. --Thiotrix (talk) 13:33, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

New genus pages[edit]

Hello Nytexcome, I have noticed that your new genus pages could be improved to meet our standardized Wikispecies form:

  1. . The heading "Taxonavigation" should be at the start of each taxon page, but never be used in templates! I have removed it from Template:Neotangiina ‎ and Template:Tangiina.
  2. . Please use a genus template on genus pages, see my edit for Tangella. I have created Template:Tangella, so you can take it as a model for your genus templates.
  3. . Always add a species list to genus pages. {{sp|G|enusname|speciesname1}} {{splast|G|enusname|speciesnamelast}}
  4. . For providing the links to the author pages, template:a has to be added for each authority separately: {{a|Author1}} & {{a|Author2}}, .
  5. . Finally, please add a category for each taxon authority: [[Category:Full-author-name taxa]]. You will find the full name by following the authority link in the name section.

I hope these tipps are helpful for you. If you like some more detailed help, please just ask me. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 09:21, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Hemihomonyms and homonyms[edit]

Hello Nytexcome, about your edit at Mabokiana (disambiguation): This is not a hemihomonym (that would mean, the same name is given to a plant and an animal, and both are valid names). But in Mabokiana, both are animals, which makes the later name an unvalid younger homonym. Usually we would need only a page for the valid name, and the younger homonyms can be noted after the synonyms section under an ===Homonyms=== heading. If you need help with such kind of homonyms, please ask our zoology editors at the Village Pump. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 16:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Macvicaria[edit]

Classifications change. Because of this, disambiguation pages should disambiguate using the authors' names, rather than current placement in a classification. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Enantia[edit]

Hi Nytexcome, I just wanted to inform you that what you did here and here is not the correct way to do this: one shouldn't directly copy page contents because this loses the edit history. You should instead first have moved the page Enantia to Enantia (Pieridae), in order to 1) preserve the history and 2) keep the Wikidata item linked properly (which at the moment is still linked to Enantia). Then, only after the move, Enantia can be edited to point to Enantia (disambiguation). I am temporarily requesting deletion of Enantia (Pieridae), so that we can redo things properly. Feel free to ask if it is not clear. --LamBoet (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

OK, it was deleted, I made the page move, and one more important thing was to fix the page links. Kind regards --LamBoet (talk) 17:11, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Please correct refs[edit]

You moved Schizochilus to Schizochilus Sond. to allow for the hemihomonym thanks and good work. However, the links on the Reference Section did not work, for example {{WCSP}}. You need to modify the link by adding, for example Schizochilus, to the end and this applies to all of them, including Commons. You can see what I have done for this genus. As far as I can gather, you never undertake this fix and we would be grateful if you could correct this error in future and for your earlier changes. Not all of these are on my watch list, so I can not easily correct! Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 08:36, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Hello Andyboorman, Thank you for your recent comments on Schizochilus to Schizochilus Sond. I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to say concerning changing links. It's true a still don't have a full understanding as to all the myriad workings on Wikispecies, but I fail to see how changing a page name changes any data links to outside web pages. If you are referring to Wikidata items (of which I know nothing), why would you want to change Schizochilus to Schizochilus Sond. which is a total fictional creation set up for Wikispcies purposes and bears no relation to reality for those outside Wikispecies. The only other page I have moved was from Leucon to Leucon Krøyer (to make way for disambiguation page). Please help my confusion. Thanks Nytexcome (talk) 02:26, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Hello Nytexcome. Link outs like {{WCSP}} use the page name as a default, however, the search on a name like Schizochilus Sond will not find a match in their database. In order to correct this you add the actual name to be searched at the end. The required syntax then becomes WCSP|2019|Mar.|26|Schizochilus. This has to be repeated for {{IPNI}}, {{MBG}}, {{TPLF}} and so on including {{Commonscat}}. By the way Schizochilus Sond. has been changed to Schizochilus (Orchidaceae) by the original editor. Hope this helps Andyboorman (talk) 08:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

William John Swainson[edit]

Hello Nytexcome, I noticed you moved William Swainson to William John Swainson, thanks for that. Just to let you know, the categories Category:William Swainson taxa and Category:Eponyms of William Swainson also needed to be moved to match the article's title (I just did it!). All the pages in these categories also needed to be recategorized; to do that I used the tool Cat-a-lot (I posted on PeterR's talk page information on how to use it). Also, the links to William Swainson in the different reference templates could be updated. Best regards, Korg (talk) 21:34, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 14:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 19:14, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Merging of Hygrophila[edit]

Hello Nytexcome, thank you for merging Hygrophila (Superordo) and Hygrophila (Gastropoda). The merging is not complete, as there are still many links to Hygrophila (Superordo): https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Hygrophila_(Superordo). Please have a look at those linking pages, probably they use an outdated template. If you have all corrected and nothing links to them anymore, the page Hygrophila (Superordo) and the template {{Hygrophila (Superordo)}} can be sent to deletion, by typing {{delete|add reason here}}. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 12:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Pseudorodentolepis author[edit]

Hello Robert! I've added a primary reference (including most author names) to the Pseudorodentolepis page you recently created, however I wonder whether you happen to know the full name of "G.S. Shaikh"? Thank you for your contributions! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 05:59, 12 January 2020 (UTC).

My best guess is Ghulam Shabir Shaikh, Associate Professor of pathology at Chandka Medical College and Shaheed Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto Medical University in Pakistan, but I have a hard time finding any good, definitive sources. His ResearchGate page can be found here, if that's helpful. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 06:22, 12 January 2020 (UTC).

Hello Tommy, ZooBank has 2 entries for the surname Shaikh. One entry is G. S. Shaikh and the other is Ghulam Shabir Shaikh. Both author names have different articles concerning Trematoda in Proceedings of Parasitology. It would seem highly unlikely that there are two different parasitologists working in the Pakistan/India region with the same surname and same two initials. Consequently, I am assuming they are the same individual and have revised page Pseudorodentolepis to show full name as Ghulam Shabir Shaikh. If you have any further comment, please let me know and thanks for calling this to my attention.
Kind regards, Nytexcome 09:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC) (The edit was moved here from User talk:Tommy Kronkvist#Pseudorodentolepis author, since it is easier to follow a discussion between several parties if it is kept on the same page. This is Wikimedia praxis.)
Thank you for your swift reply – and of course also for your edits related to this issue. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC).
I went ahead and set up Wikidata items for the author pages you created: Q81800247, Q81781017, Q81799924 & Q81799663 for Rajab Ali, Fatima Mujib Bilqees, Haseen Fatima and Ghulam Shabir Shaikh, respectively. As a consequence our Wikispecies author pages will be populated with additional data and references if and when such information is added to their respective Wikidata items. If available in Wikidata, fetching that data to Wikispecies is done automatically by the {{Authority control}} template you may have seen on some of our Wikispecies author pages. Also, the data will be automatically shared with all Wikimedia sister projects, not just Wikispecies but also Wikipedia, Wikinews, Commons, Wikisource, etc. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:26, 12 January 2020 (UTC).

Page blanking[edit]

Why are you leaving blank pages like Montfortia? —Justin (koavf)TCM 08:09, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

New species and genre[edit]

I see you doing some excellent work adding new pages. Just a heads up if you are willing, to add the link back from an already existing wikidata item. The serves the purpose of having the wikipedia pages (if they exist in various languages) appear on WikiSpecies in the In Wikipedia (languages) section in the bottom left. Example: https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ezona I searched Ezona on wikidata, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5015237 and added the wikispecies topic to that page. This is very useful to the project when you have quickly verified all applicable references for the WikiSpecies project. Another example is https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Duploperaclistus which I linked to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5017272 and from your work I was then able to add Paul M. Martens as the taxon author and 1983 as the year of taxon name publication with the additional property taxon author citation.

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Robertreadman (talkcontribs) 09:14, 23 February 2020‎.

With all due respect and not wishing to seem uncooperative, I have no desre to spend any of my time editing Wikidata items. Firstly, I have no idea how to do this and secondly I can see no value at all to the Wikidata project, since any user can find what he/she wants on either Wikispecies or Wikipedia. If you and others on Wikispecies feel there is merit to the Wikidata project, I respectfully suggest that a programming change be made so that Wikispecies items are automatically linked to Wikidata items and vice versa. I see that you have added a template {Authority Conrol} to some of the new pages I have set up. If you find this to be important, I will gladly add this template to any new pages I create. Please let me know. Kind regards, Nytexcome (talk) 04:25, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Why [1] ?[edit]

Why are you emptying the page? If something is wrong with the page, you will need to have it improved or deleted. Just emptying is not okay. --Killarnee (TRP) 17:06, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

I agree, and this is a very important issue. If you find a page that should be deleted (as in this case), simply blanking it is not okay. Quite frankly blanking pages is more or less never okay, and may be seen as vandalism which will lead to your user account being blocked. Instead, pages that needs to be deleted should be marked with the {{Delete}} template, leaving the rest of the page intact. This will automatically add the page to the Candidates for speedy deletion category which is constantly monitored by us administrators, and it will then be dealt with fairly quickly. The reason behind this standard procedure is that it makes it easier to harvest different data from the page before deleting it (data sometimes invisible to non-admins), which may be important to keep our logs correct and up to date, or for copyright issues. I've now deleted the pageTommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC).
Thanks Tommy for reminding me of this. I believe the page in question was blanked before you had told me about the delete template. Kind regards Nytexcome (talk) 05:38, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, the first time the "Speedy deletion" template was mentioned to you was by Thiotrix in early October last year, in the #Merging of Hygrophila section above. The now deleted Karenia (disambiguation) page we discuss here was:
  1. created by Murma174 at 22:48, 24 March 2016
  2. blanked by you at 05:03, 2 September 2019 (i.e. exactly one month before Thiotrix' note, to the day)
  3. restored to Murma174's version by @Killarnee at 16:43, 26 February 2020
  4. …which you reverted 20 minutes later, and then…
  5. 3 minutes after that you added the text "This page is a duplicate of Karenia and therefore this page Karenia (disambiguation) needs to be deleted !" to the page (your emphasis).
  6. Finally, the page was deleted by me at 18:05 that same day.
Anyway, please remember not to blank pages in the future. By the way this also include talk pages: if they get to grow to bulky over time they should be archived rather than blanked. Have a look at my talk page for an example of such archives.
Regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 10:59, 27 February 2020 (UTC).

Author categories[edit]

Hi Nytexcome! Please don't remove author categories from pages, the template "author2" is a recent create template and is not consensual your use. Its use disables the hotcat gadget. If you want you can go to VillagePump and discuss the use of template author2 with the community and get a consensus for its use. Regards, Burmeister (talk) 20:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Taxonbar is not consensual too! See here for a discussion in VillagePump. Regards, Burmeister (talk) 23:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)