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Autopatrolled rights[edit]

Dear Faendalimas, You have been granted autopatrolled user rights, which may be granted to experienced Wikispecies users who have demonstrated an understanding of Wikispecies policies and guidelines. In addition to what registered users can do, autopatrollers can have one's own edits automatically marked as patrolled (autopatrol). The autopatrol user right is intended to reduce the workload of new page patrollers and causes pages created by autopatrolled users to be automatically marked as patrolled. For more information, read Wikispecies:Autopatrollers.

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Dan Koehl (talk) 14:09, 3 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Welcome back![edit]

Its nice to see you back on Wikispecies. Dan Koehl (talk) 16:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Dear, Faendalimas! Would you accept to be an Administrator on Wikispecies? Wikispecies need more Administrators and presently there is only 27 out of 150 active users.
Please see Administrators for information about Admins rights. If you are positive, I can nominate you on the requests for adminship on your behalf.

Dan Koehl (talk) 01:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Dan Koehl yes I would accept a nomination thank you very much. Faendalimas (talk) 02:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, please confirm at Requests for adminship between my sign and support. Dan Koehl (talk) 02:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Is NMW the same for Naturhistorisches Museum Wien? PeterR (talk) 09:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PeterR: yes NMW is the Natural History Museum in Viena. Cheers Faendalimas talk 10:33, 16 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As an aside I was setting up the Chelodina to acknowledge their sub genera, hence basename is not suitable for them. Faendalimas talk 10:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]




Hi Faendalimas,
I deleted the __HIDDENCAT__-tag in some of the pages, you edited. It is not necessary to tag the pages, it is sufficient to tag the category, e.g. Category:Snake Maint. --Murma174 (talk) 17:34, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Murma174: ok no worries, when I started using it we were not sure, I will remove the rest as I go. I have the Cat on there for auto updating purposes. Cheers Faendalimas talk 20:48, 22 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Callicebus miltoni[edit]


Why didn't you make an author template for Callicebus miltoni?. the bulletin is free [1]. You can add all the information. PeterR (talk) 10:57, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PeterR: no reason, I only edited it because I patrolled it, and felt the ref could be a little clearer. However, I would have got back to it. Cheers Faendalimas talk 11:51, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TTWG template[edit]

Hi. The doi given in the {{TTWG}} template (i.e. DOI: 10.3854/crm.5.000.checklist.v7.2014) seems incorrect. Can you please verify this? Cheers, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:27, 26 March 2015 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Tommy Kronkvist: Thanks for letting me know. That is exactly as it is reported in the publication found here I have submitted an error report to and will see if they respond in the meantime I will update the TTWG template to remove the DOI and have a download link instead. Cheers Faendalimas talk 20:36, 26 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Online status[edit]

I hope it works for you now, if it does, you should have a number of links at the top of your page, where you can indicate your status. If its not working, you must copy this script and put in your User:Faendalimas/StatusChanger2.js and change your User:Faendalimas/vector.js to importScript('User:Faendalimas/StatusChanger2.js');

At the top of this page I placed to templates to choose from and experiment with. Personally I use both, and on user page as well as talk page. I havtnt tried yet, but hav been thinking on putting the smaller one in my signature, so my sign indicated if Im online or not, but im not sure thats working. Dan Koehl (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Local policies[edit]

Please see Wikispecies_talk:Projects#Project_local_policies. Dan Koehl (talk) 11:51, 18 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Authored Taxa[edit]


I see that you make double work by Authored Taxa by Scott Thomson for the taxa. I see that the real name is Scott A. Thomson and not Scott Thomson. We make authored taxa after real names. PeterR (talk) 12:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@PeterR: I never use my full name, prefer Scott Thomson, not Scott A Thomson, some papers have my middle initial, but its when I was not given a choice. The Taxon authority page is under Scott Thomson. ie Scott Thomson = user:Faendalimas Cheers, Faendalimas talk 12:57, 25 April 2015 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I mean that you make double authored taxa. 6 pieces under authored taxa and if you push on 6 authored taxa you see the same taxa. The 6 pieces under authored taxa is over done. I'm sorry for my english. PeterR (talk) 13:11, 25 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I see what you mean, yeah need to remove those, have not done it yet will do so. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 13:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done now. Faendalimas talk 13:14, 25 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


You might like to put your ORCID iD on your user page, using {{Authority control}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:57, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks done that. Faendalimas talk 23:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. I've also added it to the Wikidata item about you. If you're happy for your gender to be known publicly, please add that there, too. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Printer company phone numbers[edit]

This past weekend, I reverted one huge edit with multitudinous Epson phone numbers. I didn't happen to record who did it. May need to watch. Neferkheperre (talk) 14:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Neferkheperre: The one I just reverted was by Special:Contributions/Jfvh989 it was the first one I saw, looking at the contribs its all they have done. So it may be someone making multiple accounts to d this. But yes this type of advertising is not on. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 14:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I went into my history, and it was Special:Contributions/Telanima, done on talk:Main Page. Also only posting. You may be right. If this continues, we may have to call in Checkuser. Neferkheperre (talk) 15:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Our Brave New Zootaxa World[edit]

Looks like Zootaxa has dumped their preview PDFs. They do say their new website is still under construction, so maybe eventually. Meanwhile, your approach to PDF didn't work for me. I do have active account with Dropbox, so I don't know what happened. Neferkheperre (talk) 02:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My dropbox links should work as they are download links to the file. I will redo the link in the template and check it. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 02:39, 6 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Patrol stats[edit]

Thanks to Cgt on danish Wp, we can now see statistics on patrolling: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please note that the patrolling stats URL has now changed from the da:WP user Cgt's personal web page (listed above) to a URL within the Wikimedia project itself, more specifically at Wikimedia Tool Labs. The old "" URL no longer works without a proper SSL certificate. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:45, 17 April 2016 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Still around?[edit]

Are you still around old friend? Regards ZooPro (talk) 12:36, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heya @ZooPro: yep I am still around. Am an admin on Wikispecies these days. How you been. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 19:50, 7 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I cant complain I guess needing to fill my days with a bit of relaxing editing I think. I did see the promotion, a very well deserved appointment that's for sure. I hope to take on more tasks here in WikiSpecies as time allows. Cheers ZooPro (talk) 04:05, 11 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @ZooPro: I am currently travelling, am in Florida working at the Chelonian Research Institute where I curate the turtle collection. About 18000 specimens. So my wikispecies checkins have been a bit slow as a result. I will be back in Brasil on 26 January though so will be more active again then. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 02:41, 21 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Application for Checkuser[edit]

Referring to earlier discussions regarding a local Checkuser policy, I herebye apply to get Checkuser user rights, although we havnt reached a consensus reg Checkuser policy, but I want to give it a try if I can get the required votes. For a request to succeed a minimum of 25 support votes and an 80% positive vote are required (subject to the normal bureaucrat discretion). Requests for checkuser run for two weeks, and I ask kindly that somone starts the poll, like we do for adminship applications.

Please also note that CheckUser actions are logged, but for privacy reasons the logs are only visible to other Checkusers. Because of this, Wikispecies must always have no fewer than two checkusers, for mutual accountability. I dont want to suggest anyone, but hope that someone feel inspired and will step forward and also apply for checkuser.

My request to the Wikispecies community is here

Dan Koehl (talk) 01:40, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another application for Check User[edit]

As pointed out above by User:Dan Koehl, we need at least two Check Users for this wiki. I am nominating myself and would be happy to receive any feedback that you have to give (positive, negative, or neutral). Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Koavf. Thanks. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:08, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Third application for checkuser[edit]

Further to recent messages, I am also offering to serve, so that we have three checkuser operators, to ensure adequate coverage in case one of the others is unavailable. Please comment at Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Pigsonthewing. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Additional Checkuser Application[edit]

I also have added my name to those willing to be a checkuser. Please see my application here Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Faendalimas. I listed this yeasterday but have been encouraged to do a mass mail. I would also take the opportunity to make sure everyone knows that any editor can vote but that it is imperative that as many do as possible, for all 4 of the current applicants, please have your say. Checkuser voting has strict policy rules regarding number of votes. You will have other messages from the other Users concerned you can also read about it in the discussion on the Village Pump - Wikispecies:Village_Pump#Application_for_Checkuser. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:53, 29 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Standing for role of checkUser[edit]

Like some of our colleagues (who I support), I am offering to serve as a checkuser, not least to ensure adequate coverage in case one of the others is unavailable.

Please comment at Wikispecies:Checkusers/Requests/Pigsonthewing.

[Apologies if you receive a duplicate notification; I wasn't aware of Wikispecies:Mail list/active users, and sent my original notification to the list of administrators instead.] MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RFC on Checkusers[edit]

With one week to go I wanted to remind everyone of the importance of voting on the current CheckUser applications. They can all be found together on a single RFC: Wikispecies:Requests_for_Comment#Checkusers.

It is extremely important with votes such as this for everyone to be involved. There are strict rules in the Wikimedia Foundation Policy guidelines on these votes. I would urge people to have a good understanding of what a CheckUser does. This can be read up on here on the page discussing CheckUser's Wikispecies:Checkusers. Links on this page will take you to other policy information on Meta, HowTo for our site etc.

I would also urge people to look at our own policy development and some past discussion on this can be found here: Wikispecies_talk:Local_policies#Local_CU_Policy.

Wikispecies has in the past had issues that has required the intervention that is supported by the ability to do a CheckUser. Many of us are aware of this. The capacity to do this ourselves greatly speeds up this process. Although SockPuppetry can sometimes be identified without using a CheckUser in order to do the necessary steps to stop it or even prevent it requires evidence. We all know that sockpupets can do significant damage.

This is an important step for Wikispecies. It is a clear demonstration we can run ourselves as a Wiki Project part of Wiki Media Foundation. When I and several others first discussed this we knew it would be difficult at the time to meet all the criteria. We have only now decided to try and get this feature included in Wikispecies. By doing this it can lead to other areas where Wikispecies can further develop its own policies. In some areas we have unique needs, different to the other Wiki's. It is timely we were able to develop all these policies.

Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Invitation to join the Ten Year Society[edit]

Dear Faendalimas/Archive 2,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikispecies project for ten years or more.

Best regards,

Dan Koehl (talk) 08:57, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Obrigado..!! Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 09:56, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bureaucrat on Wikispecies?[edit]

Dear Faendalimas, I have nominated you as Bureaucrat on Wikispecies. If you accept this nomination, then please confirm here. Dan Koehl (talk) 11:26, 9 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for vote reg use of BASEPAGENAME[edit]

The previous discussions regarding if we should subst:ing BASEPAGENAME and change all [[BASEPAGENAME]] into [[susbt:BASEPAGENAME]] did not really reach a consensus.

Please vote here on the Village pump!

If you are not sure on your opinion, you can read and join the discussion about the claimed advantages and disadvantages of using BASEPAGENAME

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RE:CheckUser Page[edit]

Hi, I already marked it for translation. Regards. Alvaro Molina ( - ) 13:02, 14 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Faendalimas. Congrats with the CheckUser rights. In order to complete your request for CU access, I need your email address. I need it to subscribe you to the checkuser mailing list and give you access to the CU wiki. Also: if you use IRC, please give me your irc nick and cloak. I wanted to send you an email, but it seems you disabled email access. Please enable it in your preferences and send me an email via Special:EmailUser/Trijnstel. Thanks. Trijnstel (talk) 13:37, 14 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

just need to get the cloak, coming soon. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:49, 14 February 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Congratulations, you are now a bureaucrat on Wikispecies!

Bureaucrats may apply the bureaucrat user box to their user pages. In order to do so, please copy and paste the following code to your user page: {{User Bureaucrat}}
If you have a Meta-Wiki and/or English Wikipedia user page, you can put the Wikispecies bureaucrat user box for Meta and Wikispecies bureaucrat user box for Wikipedia on your Meta-Wiki and Wikipedia user pages as well.

Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 12:02, 16 February 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Wikispecies Oversighter[edit]

Wikispecies has no local Oversighter. Since I had the communitys confidence regarding the previous application for Checkusers rights, as per local Oversight policy on META, I hereby apply to get Oversighters user rights, as a request to the Wikispecies community.

Application is located at Requests for Comment.

Please also note that Oversighter actions are logged, but for privacy reasons the logs are only visible to other Oversighters. Because of this, Wikispecies must always have no fewer than two oversighters, for mutual accountability. I don't want to suggest anyone, but hope that someone feel inspired and will step forward and also apply for oversighters rights.

Dan Koehl through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:01, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oversight nomination[edit]

Please refer to Wikispecies:Oversighters/Requests/Koavf for a second Oversight nomination. Note that we must have at least two Oversigthers in order for anyone to have these user rights. All feedback is welcome. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On activity[edit]

Hi Scott, consider this note as my resignation as admin/crat on Wikispecies. A long time ago I was doing a lot of the cleanup jobs requiring admin and crat tools, and nowadays it is handled splendidly by other, much more active and involved users. Good luck with the project! Maxim(talk) 15:08, 12 March 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Maxim: thank you for contacting me it is much appreciated. I will put in a request to the stewards to remove the advanced rights here. Thank you also for your many years of contributions to the project they are greatly appreciated. If you ever feel you have the time and wish to become involved again please let me know and we shall see what you would like to do. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:43, 12 March 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hidden category[edit]

Hi Scott! Do we still need the Category:Turtle Maint hidden category? And... what have you been using it for, really..? :-) All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Tommy Kronkvist: I used it to locate pages, using AWB, I had earmarked as missing type data among turtles. Most are sorted now. Yes it can be deleted, including all usages. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 00:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for your swift answer. Nifty way of using AWB by the way – I'll keep that in memory. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 00:24, 27 June 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]
P.S. I see now that quite a lot of the pages in the category are lacking author links. I'll sort that out during the next couple of days, and will remove the pages from the "Turtle Maint" category as I go. Thanks for your latest contributions to VP! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 00:32, 27 June 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Endangered species[edit]

Hi Scott. I'm about to create a new "Endangered species" page for December, and came to think of Mesoclemmys hogei. However there are no pictures of it in Commons – nor as far as I can see any free to use images available elsewhere – and I really think that the "Endangered species" section on the Wikispecies Main Page should include a picture. Do you now of any other critically endangered species of chelonian, that is represented with an image in Commons? Or perhaps you have a nice picture of your own to upload? Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:33, 4 December 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Hey @Tommy Kronkvist: I have asked around some people I know for an image with appropriate licencing for Commons. Will let you know. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:55, 4 December 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User added to Autopatroller user group[edit]

Hi Scott. As you've seen most (almost all?) of the edits made by User:Artificial123 are translations of English vernacular names to Belarusian. I noted that you recently added Artificial123 to the autopatroller user group. Some time ago I gave this some thought myself but realized that while many of his/her edits are excellent, quite a few of them only involves adding transliterations of Latin script scientific names to Belarusian Cyrillic script ditto's, rather than adding the actual Belarusian vernacular names. Hence I wanted to wait with the user group promotion until being able to verify the edits by some other Belarusian speaking user. My Belarusian is not perfect (to say the least…) but I question whether you have taken these instances into consideration? After all we want true vernacular names (if any) rather than "Google Translate" ones. Or to put it in a more Wikispecies' technical wording: In effect adding a user to the autopatroller's group is the equivalent of always running and auto-approving a Real-Time Recent Changes (RTRC) check on that user's edits – but in this particular case, and in your opinion, are we really ready to do that?

Please note that this message is (as always) written in good faith, and that I'm also confident that Artificial123's edits are made in the same manner. That said, I still think my question is valid. Cheers, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:19, 19 January 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]

hi @Tommy Kronkvist: I am afraid I assumed he was making valid vernacular name edits. I also believe they are in good faith. I had seen no complaints and saw many unpatrolled edits so saw no harm in giving him autopatrol rights. However, I agree with your point. I am on my phone right now could you please undo my edit to his user rights. We shoud question his edits on his talk page and ensure he is aware we are after local vernacular names not translations from google. cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 20:34, 19 January 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Done in regards to revoking user's right. Thanks for your swift reply. Question not yet put forward to user's talk page, but I'll do it tomorrow unless anyone else beats me to it (now evening here in Sweden, and its been a very long day working). Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:03, 19 January 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]
"quite a few of them only involves adding transliterations of Latin script scientific names to Belarusian Cyrillic script ditto's, rather than adding the actual Belarusian vernacular names"... What? Can you show me that? I only got names from books in Belarusian, some of them are similar with Latin, like Template:Lang-laTemplate:Lang-be, Template:Lang-laTemplate:Lang-be etc. --Artificial123 (talk) 11:46, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Artificial123 and Tommy Kronkvist:. I would not know any Belarusian common names for animals, for all I know they do basically transliterate the latin names. Could you send me a reference for one of the books please. Do not worry I think what you have been doing is in good faith. I just want to make sure its exactly what we need. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 15:29, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Here is Encyclopedia of Belarusian nature in References section. I know user, who wrote the most articles about nature in bewiki, she has this book. I only copied names of these articles and added into Wikispecies articles. --Artificial123 (talk) 18:01, 20 January 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now all of the edits are checked and patrolled, however I did revert Брахігобіус i.e. Brachygobius(diff.) Lastly, @Artificial123: when adding more vernacular names in the future, please remember that the Vernacular names section should always be the very last section of the page, below the references and all other sections. See this diff. for an example. Thank you, and happy editing! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:02, 21 January 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Mecyclothorax: Articles to create[edit]

Hi. In the Administrators' Noticeboard seems to have various orphaned talk pages about the genus Mecyclothorax. All have been deleted. But looks like is missing to create various articles about the species (not only the articles with [recently deleted] orphaned talk pages listed on the noticeboard, there is more but without orphaned talk pages). I can do this, but the discussions deleted should remain deleted? Thanks! --Stïnger (会話) 21:33, 13 February 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Stïnger: yes those articles need to be created, ie the mainspace pages, the talk pages can stay deleted though. We only create talk pages here as needed, ie for discussions on particular namespace pages. If its not needed it should not be created and we do not normally have data on the talk page. Thanks for this. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 21:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Let's do this then. Thanks. --Stïnger (会話) 21:41, 13 February 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]
@Stïnger: The list you refer to has now been archived and is therefore no longer present on the Administrators' Noticeboard. Instead it is now readily available from the archive if you need it, however please do not edit the actual archive page. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:41, 15 February 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Okay. Thank you for your note. --Stïnger (会話) 01:46, 15 February 2018 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Clickable button/iconclass[edit]

Hi, You created Template:Clickable button. Do you have any idea what should be in Template:Clickable button/iconclass, which is transcluded there, and in seven other templates: [2]? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:51, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Pigsonthewing:. Hi Andy, it was connected to some templates I imported from Commons for the CheckUser pages here the Commons equivalent of the template you queried is here. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 22:38, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. I've now imported the sub-template. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Turtle ID[edit]

Perhaps you can help me: did I identify File:Red-eared slider × yellow-bellied slider on a rock.jpg correctly? I'd like to know before adding the picture to the Wikipedia article. Alexis Jazz (talk) 16:22, 29 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Species articles[edit]

hi do you know how to creat articles in I download col 2017 2 8 gb size Amirh123 (talk) 09:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Covert ranine batrachians[edit]

Hi Scott. Is the hidden category Category:Rana Repairs still needed? If the pages in the category needs more taxonomy related editing then I suggest you do the legwork, but if its a mere question of emptying and then deleting the category I can do the handiwork... Cheers, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:56, 9 May 2019 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Faendalimas: Ping, requesting acknowledgement. :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 05:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Blocked user[edit]

Hello Scott! Hope you don't mind that I went ahead and blocked User:PreciousDemarest. Please see User talk:PreciousDemarest for details. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:44, 23 September 2019 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Tommy Kronkvist: No problem I nearly did myself. Just thought I would watch first. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 07:50, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sea turtles[edit]

Do you by any chance, have anything to do with fossil marine turtles? Neferkheperre (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Neferkheperre: Not overly, in one of my papers I covered some of them. However, I do know people that do work on them and I have a lot of literature on them what do you need exactly? Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 01:54, 21 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]


He never said jackshit to me after you moved the conversation to my talk, so I plowed ahead. In my "review" of new templates, I made minimal edits to his, but he still pounced on me again because (I think: He seems entirely incapable of explaining himself clearly, and I'm left to vaguely assume that what he means about the "bulletin" is this edit, which I actually poked him about because of weirdness in publication dates) of my working on older ones.

I'm editing his old templates for the link things (and also missing category:reference templates and </noinclude>), which I know everyone else will agree are simply not optional corrections. But I'm at my wit's ends as to how I'm supposed to explain that to him. And him being hyper-defensive of "his" content while at the same time accusing me of being a new Stephen is not helping (not to mention the irony therein...). I mean, is it my fault if he has been using these external links in his new templates right up until (!!) this June?

Circeus (talk) 15:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Circeus: Please also see 1847&oldid=2438296 this edit made by PeterR in the poll about the References format back in 2015. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:19, 1 November 2019 (UTC).Reply[reply]
@Circeus and Tommy Kronkvist: I remember that now, frustrating, ok so what shall we do about it, suggestions? Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 16:30, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Honestly, I'm generally unconcerned with these minutiae, an issue (yes I an still salty about that) which would never have existed if a simple set of cite template had been implemented early on. As long as the information is in the right order and has the right amount of formatting in the right places (i.e. small-capped authors and italicized serial titles), further fighting over this stuff is just pointless and distracting for me.
Any consistency issues I think are actually pertinent (e.g. how to deal with books in series/journal issues with ISBNs, how to format serial titles with subseries, whether book pages should be given as 1-nnn or nnn pp. etc.) are completely ignored by the current (hardly documented, I should add) guidelines. Given the huge backlog of templates which became retroactively misformatted when this rigid standard was chosen, I don't think it's even in use for anything close to the majority of the reference templates to begin with anyway. So I'm sorry, but I really couldn't care less about all this hair-splitting when we have more relevant cleanup and documentation work to do (e.g. {{Zfg}}, {{Auth}}, {{Nomen}}...).
I am especially unconcerned on account that not a single one of the "issues" Tommy butted in to talk about are linked to any changes I made that angered Peter in the first place! I'm pretty sure 99% of his indignation is caused specifically by my disagreement about when and how to link to external pdfa and scans, and we can't argue we have anything close to a standard for that either! Circeus (talk) 16:47, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Circeus and Tommy Kronkvist: Believe it or not I do actually support the notion of a set of reference templates. However I am also aware of how much work it would be. Am familiar with the arguments, valid or not, against it. I do not like the Wikipedia ones as they never display references in a way standardized in Zoology, that could be overcome though. Could I ask a favor could we make a list of templates we must not use, and their prefered alternatives at some point please. Personally I am preferring these days to just use the {{A}} template with the "|nolink=y" parameter when I do not want a link rather than {{Aut}}, are you wanting the {{Nomen}} template used? I can start using it if people wish. Peter has his way of doing things, we possibly need to get him to realize that this is a wiki and is community edited, his edits may be overwritten at times. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 16:58, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nomen being used? PLEASE NO. Literally all it does now is throw hard-coded linebreaks into the pages (no really, this right here is the entirety of the code for it: <br>{{{1}}}). The original idea (it was apparently supposed to create collapsible sections?) was of dubious usefulness and I think even Stephen had long abandoned it when he was banned, but there are still over 3K uses of it. Even if Mariusm's bot never creates new articles again, it will have plenty of work dealing just with some of these templates.
My list of templates to get rid of right now is {{Auth}}, {{Nomen}}, {{Syn}}, {{Species}} (this was apparently part of a proposed alternate scheme to the current taxonav templates, but never adopted; I've dealt with the rest of the set) and {{Zfg}}, but only some of those can be bot-removed. I expect more to go on it as I wade about Stephen's old stuff. I would personally do away with stuff such as {{NZEnt}} and {{Zootaxa}} too (mostly because it enforces the use of an issue number that doesn't necessarily exist), but people seem to like at least the latter. Circeus (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree. I rid every page of {{Auth}}, {{Nomen}}, {{{Syn}}, {{Species}} and {{NZEnt}} templates when I come across them, but tend to keep the {{Zootaxa}} ones. Tommy Kronkvist (talk)., 19:04, 1 November 2019 (UTC).Reply[reply]
@Circeus and Tommy Kronkvist: good that was my understanding, was not clear on what you meant with NOMEN, I will get rid of them as I see them. Certainly do not use them. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 19:20, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
{{NZEnt}} is not nearly as bad now that I removed the forced external links that had gone bad from its code, but I personally believe that the entire class of templates used to to generate the tail end of a reference starting with the journal name are a bad idea (hence my dislike of {{Zootaxa}}, whose design I find especially awkward to update). Unfortunately, Stephen loved creating this sort of templates, and now, there we are... I expect to continue finding new ones (hopefully less widespread) over time. Circeus (talk) 19:33, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

With this redirect, what reference are you using? As far as I can tell neither TTWG(2017) or TEWG(2015) have this and they are the references on the destination page. Sun Creator (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Following these two:
  • W. G. Joyce. 2016. A Review of the Fossil Record of Turtles of the Clade Pan-Chelydridae. Bulletin of the Peabody Museum of Natural History 57(1):21-56
  • T. R. Lyson, W. G. Joyce, and J. J. W. Sertich. 2017. A new chelydroid turtle, Lutemys warreni, gen. et sp. nov., from the Upper Cretaceous (Campanian) Kaiparowits Formation of southern Utah. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology 37(6):e1390672

I do not use the Pan-... taxa as they are nomenclaturally not available, this makes the Kinosternoidea a synonym of Chelydroidea. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 14:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. What does "they are nomenclaturally not available" mean? How can I tell what is and isn't nomenclaturally available? Sun Creator (talk) 15:06, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sun Creator: In the case of names such as Pan-Chelidae, Pan-Chelydridae etc that are popular in the PhyloCode papers these are illegal combinations under the code as you cannot have non Latin letters, symbols or numbers in a name, eg "-" hence the name is not available. We follow the ICZN nomenclature for animals, however, PhyloCode does have some better arrangements so we have to adapt them. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 15:26, 1 November 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DannyS712 bot[edit]

Hi Scott. DannyS712 bot is now approved and will start doing its thing later this week. In the discussion following the bot request you said that you "will commit as a Crat to the removal of the rights after the run is done". I'm with you there and will also keep a close eye on the bot, and certainly two 'crats must be enough to keep any troubles at bay, don't you think? :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:12, 14 January 2020 (UTC).Reply[reply]

The bot has now completed all of its chores in an orderly fashion, and consequently it's user rights has been removed. Tommy Kronkvist (talk),16:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Vote on use of template taxonbar[edit]

Hi, Thank you for casting your vote, and for the comment you left. As you adressed directly to me, I feel free to answer in your discussion page. I must say that the question of the vote is about the use of the template, not its "possible use if". If the vote says "no", the project will be stopped alltogether and every page containing the template will have to be reverted to its former format (I'll do it). Then the template and the associated modules will be deleted. If the "no" is winning (and as you mentionned, it surely will), then don't ask me to redevelopp anything. I think that, at that stage the best is to let the process finish in its due time (meaning in less than a week now). The other users have agreed implicitly for that period of time, so I suggest you don't change the rules all by yourself. Cheers. --Caftaric (talk) 06:04, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Caftaric: I have no intention of changing the rules, I made a suggestion to see if people wanted to end it including you hence I pinged you. I also suggested a way forward as it seems there is support for the development of this. If there is no interest in ending the vote early it will run to the 21st as it should. The way forward with this is largely up to you, from what I can see though the project has potential and most seem to agree with this. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 15:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this archive.


You've got mail! --DannyS712 (talk) 11:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It seems that was a fail on my part; I did not see this was a talk page. Since I don't see the page any more, could you please check if that was appropriate as a talk page post? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@1234qwer1234qwer4: I had no issue with it, but it was listed for speedy deletion reason was non standard format. So I deleted it. If you wanted to edit the mainspace edit in there. If you were unsure raise any issues on the pump with a link to the mainspace page. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was the nominator, and I thought this was a mainspace page when I nominated it, but as it's actually a talk page, my rationale for deletion is invalid. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So do you want me to reverse that or were you wanting the mainspace page deleted? If the later I would need to know why. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:44, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I proposed the talk page to be restored. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:45, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ok page restored. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I wonder why the author citation is enclosed by parentheses, as the genus Elseya seems to have been the first generic placement of that species, and the presence (or even the change) of a subgeneric name don't affect the use of parentheses (ICZN, art. 51.3.2). Christian Ferrer (talk) 10:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Christian Ferrer: yes there should be no parentheses there. The species was originally described as an Elseya. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 11:18, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, I fixed it. Christian Ferrer (talk) 11:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Invitation for Functionary consultation 2021[edit]


I'm letting you know in advance about a meeting I'd like to invite you to regarding the Universal Code of Conduct and the community's ownership of its future enforcement. I'm still in the process of putting together the details, but I wanted to share the date with you: 27 June, 2021. I do not have a time on this date yet, but I will let you soon. We have created a meta page with basic information. Please take a look at the meta page and sign up your name under the appropriate section.

Thank you for your time.--BAnand (WMF) 15:06, 2 June 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Message from Fagus[edit]

broken redirect --Fagus (talk) 19:42, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Huh? Fagus, the links above are neither redirected nor broken. Please explain. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:25, 15 August 2021 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Yeah Fagus, we need to appreciate whats happening here, @Andyboorman: this have to do with your discussions on these pages? Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 23:45, 15 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Fagus: @Tommy Kronkvist: Probably prompted by my discussion, I assume. The speedy deletes were once broken redirects, but the link was removed. They are synonyms, but a page for the accepted names has not been created. It does help tidy up the Special Page by removing broken redirects. Andyboorman (talk) 07:22, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How we will see unregistered users[edit]


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18:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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The Elders[edit]

It's actually sixteen years for me as well. I made my first WS edit n May 29, 2005. Nice to see you still around. :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:22, 14 January 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]


Hello, it may have been lost in the closure, but one of the final points over on the RfC was that there is another process which is not about the comments but just about numbers, in other words, a "vote". Sorry to labour the point, but in this instance I feel it is of sufficient import (not least, for the reasons already given). Apparently a "crat" is required for initiation, and as you are such, please could you (cf., Aristides the Just (ostracism section), were personal opposition to global accessibility a momentary consideration). Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 06:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A quick question re: the VN debacle[edit]

Hey Scott. I've not paid enough attention to the whole thing to really know: has anyone been on Macuulosae's side at any point in this whole thing? Circeus (talk) 12:37, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Circeus: no either they have disagreed with him or said nothing. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Circeus: FYI I'm one of the many users's in the last group i.e. who didn't at all partake in the RfC (however I made a statement at the Village Pump at April 11, 02:41 UTC). Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:18, 14 April 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]


Is the IRC still being used? Or can it be removed from Main Page? OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

,,@OhanaUnited: yeah I do not think we migrated wikispecies after the issues with Free node, this can be removed. I do not think it was ever used much. If that changes we can always put it back with Ribera links. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 00:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Archive 1 and 2[edit]

Hello Scott! Have you noticed that your talk page only links to the oldest of your two talk page archives, the one for 2006–2014? There's no link to the newer one regarding 2015–2022. I'm not saying there must be such a link, but thought I should ask since nowadays the page is automatically archived by MABot and therefore it might have slipped your mind. :-) All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Tommy Kronkvist: thanks for that I had automated this and did not realize its fixed now. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 23:26, 25 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]