User talk:Christian Ferrer

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Referene template[edit]

Hello Christian. I've created the {{Sokolov, 1952}} reference template. Feel free to add more data to it if you can. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:59, 13 July 2019 (UTC).

Thank you Tommy. Christian Ferrer (talk) 06:35, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Images[edit]

Hi Christian: I see you uploading images of barnacle taxa. Thank you. If you could, please orient pedunculate taxa with peduncle down (e.g. Stephanolepas rotated 90° clockwise), as that is preferred orientation for study and illustration. Escallent pictures. Neferkheperre (talk) 20:38, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

That should be Trianguloscalpellum, not Stephanolepas. Latter is perfect. Neferkheperre (talk) 20:40, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
  • @Neferkheperre: ok, done. I made a rotation request [1]. I am currenlty uploading almost all the images of the Invertebrate Zoology Division, Yale Peabody Museum dataset available at https://doi.org/10.15468/0lkr3w. I am sorry to have removed the page numbers that you have placed near the species name and the citation of the author in a few page, I was thinking to do well, as the use of such references in this way is not quoted in Help:Name section neither in the ICZN. But in another hand it is not forbidden, I have reinstalled it here. I will check the other pages that I have recently edited to reinstall your infos. Regards, Christian Ferrer (talk) 21:05, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Rotation came out very well. Going on to Trianguloscalpellum, image looks a bit warped on the page, but clicking on it to full size restores proportions. Perhaps resizing thumbnail on taxon page would do it. One thing I have been working on is illustrations of primary types, installed as links on taxon pages. See Chthamalus grazianii and Euscalpellum triflagellum. Unfortunately, very few museums do as completely as MNHN. USNM gives detailed data page, and BMNH is very variable, and frequently provides only a photo of the acquisition ledger page. I find original citations very important in taxonomy, and try to get as detailed as possible. It is amazing how many taxon pages have no indication of original citations. I work on living and fossil barnacles, and am building the cirriped pages as a comprehensive reference base I and others can use anywhere armed with their mobile units, and not have to be concerned with local library facilities. This should extend to all taxa. I actually have been using data and illustrations from Wikispecies when I go to LSU and work on the paleo collections. Neferkheperre (talk) 15:29, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
If the image is warped on the page it is because of a cache issue, as the image is not here directly but called via a module. You have just to wait. You will likely be happy to hear that, when I will have finished to upload the invertebrate images from the YPM, it's firmly my intention to upload into Wikimedia Commons the freely licensed images of the impressive datasets owned by MNHN (included echinoderms, molluscs, crustaceans and fossils). I will follow your example and will provides the infos about types when I have, I usually already do it for publications. Christian Ferrer (talk) 16:10, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Template:H. Adams & A. Adams, 1853-1858[edit]

I just came across this and something this complicated should probably be a source page (with all the publication info details) with the volumes having separate templates, as with e.g. Prodromus systematis naturalis regni vegetabilis. Circeus (talk) 05:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. I hesited a bit before to create the template, so I followed the same way as WoRMS and created one reference page. If one want to create a template for each years (H. Adams & A. Adams, 1853, H. Adams & A. Adams, 1854, ect...) then each of those templates will countains several part of several volumes, the details is provided in the template that I have created, then the problem will be the same though, it's true, divided in 6. If one want to create a template for each volumes then each templates will correspond to a period of several years (vol 1: 1853-1854; vol 2: 1854-58; vol 3: 1853-58), once again the issue stay the same, but here divided in 3. Furthermore this last solution seems worst as the parts of the volume 3 correspond to the plates of the other volumes, the result will be the need to have two reference templates foe each new taxa described. But I will think at about your suggestion... Christian Ferrer (talk) 05:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
I wrote and meant separate templates for the volumes. I'm aware it's hardly a perfect solution, but any attempt at dealing with this work clearly is going to be awkward and less than ideal. In particular, I believe the page ranges (and the sources of these dates should itself be cited, btw!) would probably be better provided only in a source page. Mostly because a) links to source pages are a lot more prominent and clear than links to templates (which are a somewhat technical aspect of wikispecies) and b) you currently have the same dating information given both within the template itself and on the template page, which is highly redundant. Circeus (talk) 07:07, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Italics[edit]

I've noticed you italicize publisher+location in reference templates for books. What is normally italicized is a book or periodical's title. Article/chapter titles, publishers and place of publication are not italicized. In the case of books, you can generally get away with not italicizing anything. Wikispecies users are not very consistent about that. Circeus (talk) 22:37, 10 October 2019 (UTC)