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Wikispecies has over 1,000 broken links

Hi admins, currently Wikispecies has over a thousand broken links. Some for at least nine years.

As some redirect to pages that were previously deleted, I think they should be checked/deleted by administrators. Edu! (talk) 13:57, 28 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Having reviewed and sorted many of these broken redirects I would suggest that taxon specialists need to take over this mammoth task! Andyboorman (talk) 20:17, 29 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree with Andy, however there are a few fairly clear-cut issues. For example there are about 40 user/user talk pages that are redirected due to that fact that the user names were changed sometimes in the past. The majority of them are not linked or transcluded by any other pages, and I guess deleting them is okay? Checking whether they are linked/transcluded is fairly easy, since it's only ≈40 pages all in all. There are also about 50 broken redirect "taxon" pages regarding hybrids, and they could easily be deleted since we don't do hybrids. Or am I wrong? Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:51, 30 December 2021 (UTC).Reply[reply]
We do natural hybrids in plants, as they are relatively common for some families. However, artificial hybrids a no-no. I notice MABot has done a sterling job on double redirects, big thanks for this tidy up. As to user/user talk pages without tranclusion, they can go. Andyboorman (talk) 14:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've started to deleted non-transcluded user- and user talk pages, as well as unused subpages to them. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 18:27, 2 January 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

────────── Please note that some of the user pages listed as broken redirects in reality "import" their user page data from Meta-Wiki. See for example User:Pikolas (currently listed as a broken redirect). It is redirected to User:NMaia which has a user page copied from Meta. Several pages links to the User:Pikolas page, hence it should probably not be deleted. (Please note that I chose this example at random: all pages should of course be investigated individually.) –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 03:51, 4 January 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Broken template

The {{Welcome-belated}} template seems broken. It renders the text string

Please see our [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikispecies:Autobiography|advice and guidance for taxon authors]]

on line five, yet hasn't been edited since June 22 (when I'm quite sure it worked). What's up with that? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:36, 31 December 2021 (UTC).Reply[reply]

@Tommy Kronkvist This has clearly something to do with substituting translation syntax onto a non-translatable page; however, I've only ever seen such templates being transcluded, not substituted. I have just added translation-aware transclusion to the page in an attempt to fix it, so maybe you could try it again. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Looks like it's working. Thanks! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:53, 7 January 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Per the lack of objections in Village Pump..about granting me AWB access on Wikispecies..

Hi, persuant to ther VP thread, I am requesting my username be considered to be 'approved' for AWB access on Wikispecies.

Specfically , It is my understanding that my username needs to be added to Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage to allow AWB to perform the required login and access needed.

The addition has to be performed by a local admin/sysop, I can't just add myself obviously. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Highly-trusted user. Recommended. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:35, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agree with Justin. Recommended. Andyboorman (talk) 21:37, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm seems AWB was also looking for a name on Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON , Apologies. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:57, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(Aside: The latter seems to be able to openly edited, which would seem to be mistaken?) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:59, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Protection?

Hello! I'm not familiar with the protection policy here, but I'd like to let you know that Sus is a target for vandalism. While edit frequency is low, nearly all edits by new users over the past year or two have been vandalism. Tol (talk) 22:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello Tol and thank you for the note. Usually we don't protect taxon-, journal- or author pages in main namespace, nor categories and templates related to those pages. For the most part we only protect MediaWiki files, cross-Wiki critical templates plus archives and such, and at present only 407 of Wikispecies 1,633,552 pages are protected (including both semi- and fully protected pages). However, some taxon pages have been heavily targeted by vandals, hence last year I protected for example Gorilla and Pongo plus their subpages. I've long been thinking of protecting Sus as well, for the same reasons you mention above. It was protected earlier today by admin RLJ, together with Sus scrofa. Please rest assured that we're constantly (albeit mostly silently) looking out for maleficent edits and will not hesitate to take all actions needed to counter any form of vandalism. That said, ideas and suggestions such as yours are always welcome! Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
That makes sense. Thank you, @Tommy Kronkvist! Tol (talk) 15:52, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Requesting page perotection for Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON

Most suprised this was able to be edited by non-admins. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done --DannyS712 (talk) 09:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User Rights

Hello. I think Nicolas Ramirez can be granted autopatroller rights. Any objections? Andyboorman (talk) 08:58, 15 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. No objections – I've actually been thinking about it myself for a couple of days. A few inconsistencies here and there, but all in all his edits are good. I've now set the autopatrolled flag for his user account. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 10:57, 15 January 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Vandalism

Please block User:69.124.229.237, thanks --Samuele2002 (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Burmeister (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hiding

Hello. Please could you change the public visibility of the foul edits by the IP at User talk:Wizzito? Cheers in advance. Cromium (talk) 19:39, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done By someone else. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:00, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another vandal creating random off-topic pages

See Special:Contribs/Mateus Santos Santos Lima. Monster Iestyn (talk) 21:26, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And another: Special:Contribs/2804:D47:6222:5800:557A:B44F:6AE:43AB. Monster Iestyn (talk) 22:01, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Blocked this second one and deleted the two pages as out of scope. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 22:29, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the heads up Iestyn, and thank you Scott for your welcome admin actions. Based on the content of their edits the IP and registered account are clearly used by the same person – no checkuser action needed there as far as I'm concerned. Also, both the IP and registered account created other pages that were deleted by Andy Boorman and me earlier today, prior to Scott's deletions.
As a consequence of the above I have now also blocked the "Mateus Santos Santos Lima" account. By the way the account is considered a vandalism-only account at English Wikipedia as well, hence was indefinitely blocked there about a week ago.
Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 00:28, 7 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Admins Check on Activity

Hi everyone, its been a while since we did it, it was due last October so we should do an activity check on our admins and crats. As per our policy "An "inactive admin" is one who has made fewer than 5 edits and 5 admin actions on Wikispecies in the past 12 months." per Policy. Could we please have a look and suggest any admins I should contact. As per previous discussion this does not apply to Translation Admins. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 19:50, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Users on the former but not the latter:
Seems like a good starting point. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:27, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am in and out here, but I am active regularly on en.Wikisource right now. If a notice comes out, I do pop in to read it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for checking in @EncycloPetey: I am aware of your work on Wikisource its no problem. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 22:01, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm still around but at Wikiversity for WikiJournal stuff. OhanaUnitedTalk page 00:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @OhanaUnited: yep seen you often at WikiJournal and you do come here when needed. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 01:08, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mariusm seems to have left after July 2021. But that's only 6 months ago. OhanaUnitedTalk page 01:11, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dan Koehl: Koehlbot is yours is this still being used? Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 22:02, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm about and occasionally do a bout of activity around special:UnusedTemplates, as well as checking my watchlist, but admittedly I'm mostly coordinating this with Iestyn for IRMNG. Circeus (talk) 01:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Faendalimas:, Koehlbot hasnt been used for long time, and I think its OK to deactivate. Should a need rise for this Bot, its easy to reactivate again...? Dan Koehl (talk) 13:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ok @Dan Koehl:, thanks for that I will have the admin flag removed from it. If you need it in the future it can be reinstated. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 16:17, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Have requested removal of admin rights from Koehlbot at Meta cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 20:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
this is more about making sure accounts with zero activity and likely even logins do not sit around with the admin flag. If your active its fine. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 01:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • eh only had the bit for vandalism outbreaks the locals admins couldn't deal with. No longer appears to be a concern.Geni (talk) 18:09, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • ok
    • @Franz Xaver: has done one edit and no admin actions in the last 12 months, last edit was 3 Oct 2021, prior to that was 8 Dec 2020. I shall send a message to him in regards to activity.
    • @AlvaroMolina: is a translation admin who are exempt from much of this checking within reason. However he has been a valuable asset in this area too. So I will leave this one till next activity check.
    • @Mariusm: has been a trusted and valuable asset and only missing since July, in what has clearly been a tough year for many. I will give him till July, one year since last edit and reassess at that point.
    • all others have promptly responded here and the admin flag for Koehlbot has been removed at Dan Koehl's request. So unless anyone has more to add I will write to Franz Xaver and leave it at that. I will give a day for responses thanks everyone for helping out. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 03:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

─────── For reference, the latest contribution by Franz Xaver to any of Wikimedia's projects is this edit made in December 15, 2021 to one of his accounts subpages in the German Wikipedia. He's made edits to 57 of the different Wikimedia projects since he registered in 2011. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:28, 12 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Please also note that per Wikimedia statistics a user is considered active if they are a registered, non-bot editor with five or more edits in the past 30 days, i.e. a month – not 12 months as stated by Wikispecies' Administrator Review Policy. Hence even though the above Active user list filtered by admins is useful as a starting point, it only lists the admins who have been active the past 30 days, not over the past year.

(By the way Wikispecies currently has a total of 237 active, registered non-bot users, including 15 accounts that are blocked. The list can be found here. It doesn't show the number of deleted or reverted edits, why some of the active users edit count is lower than 5.) –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

  • wanted to be clear on why this check is done, about once every two years. Its just about security. Its not advisable to have accounts that are not being logged into sitting around with an admin or other higher flag on them. If the account is hacked there is significant more damage an admin can do than a regular user. It is not a punishment people may have very good reasons why they have not logged in. It is just about security. If an admin is deactivated because of this check they are welcome to reapply for admin at a later date if they become active again. By using these two stats, admin actions and total edits we get an idea if the admin is active, I then try to contact them, if they respond that's the end of it, if not after 30 days I have their admin flag removed. Basically if your an admin or advanced user you are expected to be using the tools given you. But in the end we cannot risk leaving them when we do not know if your around. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 23:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yup, I fully agree – also thanks for bringing it up in the first place. (It's been a while: for example, even though I remember the policy I had totally forgotten about the Wikispecies:Administrators/Inactivity Section page). I also fully agree with you regarding the security issues. I've always been an advocate of making two-factor authentication (2FA) a requirement for all of our officials, since it's safe, works, and free. It would greatly reduce the risk of any admin/bureaucrat account being hacked or taken over, however currently 2FA is only required for our interface administrators (i.e. only me). That's a discussion for another thread though. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 01:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
2FA is also required for CheckUsers and Global Rights such as Ombuds, so I have to have it too, but I agree its not difficult once you set it up and I would encourage any user to get it. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 07:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I forgot about the CheckUsers, but of course you're right: hence I guess Dan Koehl and Koavf use 2FA as well. Since Wikispecies is a local wiki the global user group rights doesn't really apply, and being a relatively small wiki we don't have any local Stewards which would otherwise also require 2FA logins. But I digress... So, I guess Franz Xaver's account will be de-flagged at about 07:10 in March 15 (UTC), should he not respond before that? It would be sad but his just over 48,000 edits (of which more than 11,000 are page creations) is a noteworthy contribution, should he chose to leave. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 06:46, 18 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Admin rights for Franz Xaver removed [1]. This discussion can be closed and archived. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 15:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

──────────── Thank you for taking care of the matter at Meta-Wiki, and for informing us here. Will Frank Xaver be notified by a Steward on his user talk page, or is that up to us? I've seen Stewards do that after removing admin rights, but I don't know whether it's standard procedure. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

I do not know for sure, I think they usually let the user know, plus they will receive a png that their user rights have changed. However I have left him a message on his home wiki talk page in any case. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 21:08, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good, however for the sake of formality I think he should be informed here at Wikispecies as well. After all it's here where he used to be an admin. Suggest we wait for a couple of days and if a Steward hasn't reached out to him someday next week, we can impart the message to him ourselves, with due thanks. I can keep an eye on it. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:28, 17 March 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Please convert the content language of this page to zh-Chinese, thanks. Stang 19:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done https://species.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Wikispecies%3AVillage+Pump%2FzhJustin (koavf)TCM 20:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Block

Please block UsernameIsBlacklistedBecauseOfAllatRa: Long-term abuse. Thanks, --Mtarch11 (talk) 06:27, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 06:35, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Faendalimas: could you please also delete the pages they created? A warm greeting :) --Superpes15 (talk) 06:47, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
heya @Superpes15: all done, good to see you. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 06:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello all three of you! :-) I've extended the block from two weeks to indef. due to the severity of the vandalism. Exchanging all information on 10 good pages (spanning four different namespaces) with out-of-scope text and then creating 5 new out-of-scope pages with that same text (in three different namespaces) is not constructive, and obvious vandalism. For reference please also see their global account information. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:10, 21 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Sounds good, I tend to start medium and work up from there. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 08:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

──────────── Nothing wrong with that, Scott. It's a sound method, and sometimes a simple warning – or even question of intent – can be a lot better than a block. However I'm not overly forgiving if it's a very apparent form of vandalism. Also, in the case at hand they're still free to edit their talk page, should they wish to make amends (which may of course lead to the block being lifted). To finalize: in all essence I agree with you. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:51, 21 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Andy Mabbett has since extended the block even further, disabling the user's ability to edit their talk page (since it was again recreated with the same material as before). By the way during the past 20 hours the account has also been indefinitely blocked from three more Wikimedia sister projects. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 02:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Excellent thanks everyone. Yeah no place for that stuff on any wiki. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 03:14, 23 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User socks

Hi everyone

inappropriate2 and inappropriate are socks, checked, please confirm the log @Dan Koehl:, @Koavf:. User edited similar pages in similar ways so I checked them, including User talk:Burmeister. I have reverted edits and blocked both users indefinitetly. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 03:49, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another two that are socks are username inappropriate and Special:Contributions/Kamen_rider_saber_1_year_later, behaviorally these appear similar to the one above, the above attacked Burmeister, who also happened to block these two. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 04:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Did one last check, all the above have same geolocation, 2 ips and 4 usernames. I consider all of these socks. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 04:33, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Confirmed. —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:53, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Special:Contributions/I_am_so_horn_knee another new one created, its a duck look at user creation log, blocked. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 07:25, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Special:Contributions/I_get_horn_knee_because_of_hot_girls another one today, account blocked, locked and ip blocked. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For the record: w:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kamen rider saber/Archive. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:08, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New admin subpage

Hello fellow administrators AccassidyAlvaroMolinaAndyboormanBurmeisterCirceusDan KoehlDannyS712EncycloPeteyFaendalimasFloscuculi Franz XaverGeniHector BottaiKeith EdkinsKoavfMariusmMKOliverMPFNeferkheperreOhanaUnited PeterRPigsonthewingRLJThiotrix.

The following page may be of interest: Wikispecies:Administrators/User group statistics. Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

hey @Tommy Kronkvist: very cool and useful, possible to list admin actions at all? At least for admins etc, or maybe shortcuts to some of the public logs. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 15:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Scott. Almost anything is possible, given time. I'll check the details during the weekend. By the way the page is write protected, except for admins. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:10, 24 February 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Good job, @Tommy Kronkvist:, a very nice overview! Dan Koehl (talk) 14:01, 26 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vandalism

Hello, could you please block 182.255.96.130, and could you delete all pages they created? Thanks! --Superpes15 (talk) 23:21, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Globally blocked. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:42, 28 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Block request

Please block Bug474 - vandalism-only account. Thank you. —Hasley (talk) 21:00, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You're a steward. Stewards are enabled on this wiki, and can block users. EthanGaming7640 21:10, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Done Andyboorman (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Some stewards are very conservative about intervening in established wikis and prefer to either give advice or only directly intervene on smaller wikis or to only act as a steward when explicitly asked. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:29, 3 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User talk:Clump

Does anybody know the story concerning User talk:Clump? Repeated creations by anonymous IPs seems to be the pattern. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 07:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • It's the same IP repeatedly. Perhaps I reverted something they did on another wiki. Either blocking that IP here or at least protecting my talk page from IP edits would be appreciated. --Clump (talk) 11:49, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Long-term abuse IP who tried to imitate me on en.wp and who I think is an abuser on en.wq. Please do block. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:11, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I've deleted the page and protected it from creation instead of just protecting from edits --DannyS712 (talk) 15:44, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Is that what the "real" @Clump: wants? Andyboorman (talk) 16:26, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • Yes---I'm not active here, so no need for a talk page. Thanks for the page protection, and the verification. :) --Clump (talk) 16:32, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speedy delete translation page

there is a speedy delete that is a translation page as such I cannot delete it, could a translation admin please do this. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 14:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 15:11, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Koavf ...please check the page again, and restore all translation pages except those explicitly tagged for deletion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:23, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@1234qwer1234qwer4, உலோ.செந்தமிழ்க்கோதை, and Kaganer: I have undeleted everything except Help:Translation/ta and Help:Translation/2/ta, because those two pages will not restore. Please ping me if more is needed from me. —Justin (koavf)TCM 15:47, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Koavf Thanks, and sorry for causing any confusion (cf. phab:T154183). A null edit on a translation unit page recreated the translation page, though I'm not sure if the older revisions can be restored (maybe only possible by unmarking the source page, restoring, and marking again). 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:54, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I still can't, no. :/ This has been a problem on a few translation pages in the past, and I have no clue how to resolve it. —Justin (koavf)TCM 15:56, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

──────────── I agree with Justin. This issue periodically manifests itself on translation pages and no one seems to know why (me included). –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 06:06, 24 March 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

As I said, I think temporarily unmarking the original page from translation to restore the translated page history did the trick at least in the past. I was going to open some Phab tasks about page restoration regarding the Translate extension, though I would need to do some more testing. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:10, 25 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, thank you. I'll see what I can do about it tomorrow – no time today, I'm afraid. Please fire away at Phabricator when you're ready: it would be great to get this sorted out once and for all. – Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 08:45, 26 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maculosae and the vernacular names: silent reverts incoming

Just a heads up that if Maculosae tries to prolong the debate, I will warn him and start silently reverting any edit of his on this topic unless another admin objects.

This has gone long enough. Circeus (talk) 13:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

agreed and thanks. I engaged initially because he has the right to bring any proposal to debate. Whether or not I agree with it, so I was respecting his right. Unfortunately that has left me in a COI with respect to making any administrative actions on it though. I think the consensus is pretty clear now, its a no. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:37, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agreed and thanks as well, as I am in a bit of COI. Andyboorman (talk) 14:46, 11 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am very suspicious of the recent post on the pump. How does a clearly Japanese unregistered user with no account, come to Wikispecies land on the one page that does this and comment. Clearly does not know how to use wikipedia they did not sign and then comment in support of a discussion that has been closed??? Meatpuppet??? Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 16:05, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is getting passive/aggressive hostile, but I can not now get involved. I would suggest a blind eye and see whether or not any other editors take the bait. Andyboorman (talk) 16:27, 13 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Scott: Unregistered yes, however as for Japanese Whois doesn't agree… –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 02:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I did not do a check, just going by the comment. Still looks weird though. Glad its all been deleted. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 04:44, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

─────────────── I am thinking we may need to take this to the next level.

  1. . He has been warned on several occasions, formally by Circeus.
  2. . He reverted the administrative actions of an admin (Andy) since redone by Circeus.
  3. . He is publicly attacking myself, Andy, Circeus, directly and less directly Tommy and Hector.
  4. . He has now in his most recent efforts resorted to wiki-lawering.
  5. . He has refused to accept the community position continuing his efforts to push something that clearly has no support.
  6. . Has possibly tried meatpuppetry, though there is no proof of this it could be a coincidence.

I would to propose a 24 hour block, formal warning and removal of his most recent comments from the pump. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 09:15, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree with you as such, though need some time to read up on the RfC history and other talks in this matter in order to get the full picture and all details in this issue. (I've been offline and/or otherwise preoccupied IRL a bit too much lately: sorry about that). I wouldn't feel comfortable blocking the user before having read all the finer details, hence will not take any action for the next 24 to 36 hrs or so. Please note that I won't argue if anyone else blocks them during that time. It's just that for the sake of fairness I strongly feel I personally shouldn't block them without first examining all that's (not) been said (or perhaps misunderstood). Also it's Easter time and possible that the over-all activity on Wikispecies will be a bit lower than usual, giving us time to find another best-for-all solution than blocking him. As a last note: it should perhaps be pointed out that at least for now the user's wikilawyering mostly consists of quoting Wikipedia guidelines, which strictly speaking doesn't apply to Wikispecies. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:03, 14 April 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I better abstain reluctantly. Andyboorman (talk) 19:44, 14 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vandalism

Please block 89.135.21.102 for repeated vandalism. ReneeWrites (talk) 11:52, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 14:45, 23 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Possible LTA?

Hello, could some admin block this user: User:Llttle Caesars Pizza is Back and ready to destroy All Wikis, he's attacking several pages on this wiki, and his username leaves me speechless. Thanks, -Alabama- (talk) 17:50, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Andyboorman (talk) 19:47, 11 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RFC on the Taxonbar

I had added a RFC on the above please feel to examine what I have produced and modify, comment and vote. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 08:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is here BTW Andyboorman (talk) 08:59, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template COL

Could a knowledgeable fellow admin write a AWB or equivalent to undertake a mass delete of the non functional {{COL}}. Ideally it should be replaced with {{Catol-Hassler}} including dates of access I suppose, but that is not really necessary in this instance . Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 19:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As a first quick-fix I've replaced the {{CoL}} template within the {{Global}} template. This should automatically replace the {{CoL}} template in almost 20,000 taxon pages, however the {{Global}} template may need some more fixes before it looks/works well . –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:45, 15 May 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Thanks I will check this out next time I encounter the template and let you know of problems I can not fix. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 19:41, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Entomology related edits by IP

This thread was removed because it contained personally identifying information. Please do not hesitate to contact me or any other steward with any questions. Sincerely, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 20:20, 27 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A Catalogue of the Plants Growing in Bombay and its Vicinity

Can anybody fix A Catalogue of the Plants Growing in Bombay and its Vicinity it is showing up as an orphan [2]. I can not figure out why. Thanks. Andyboorman (talk) 19:47, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A Catalogue of the Plants Growing in Bombay and its Vicinity and A Catalogue of the Plants Growing in Bombay and its vicinity are two different pages, that's why. Monster Iestyn (talk) 19:54, 19 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Andyboorman Pinging you in case you didn't see my message above from yesterday. Monster Iestyn (talk) 14:01, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Monster Iestyn: Thanks so the orphan can be deleted as a typo or redirected? Andyboorman (talk) 14:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Andyboorman Yes either of those would be fine I think, the orphan is just a duplicate of the other with a slightly different letter case style. MILEPRI created both pages, so he possibly forgot he created the older one when he created the newer one (the latter being the orphan)? Monster Iestyn (talk) 15:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done via redirect Andyboorman (talk) 15:22, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, as we can now use the Taxonbar is it possible to add it to MediaWiki:Edittools? if yes, can someone with the adequate permission do it? Christian Ferrer (talk) 11:34, 30 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done --DannyS712 (talk) 03:07, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great, thanks you. Christian Ferrer (talk) 11:19, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Protect my userpage

Hello, can an admin please consider create-protecting my userpage? I don't wish to create a local userpage here for now, the global userpage is sufficient, and it's been a target of vandalism. Thanks. Fehufanga (talk) 09:38, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion by translation admin needed

Can someone with the necessary permissions please delete recent template creations by User:79.106.209.120? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:42, 4 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Request for Comment

Attention fellow translation administrators AccassidyAlvaroMolinaAndyboormanBurmeisterCirceusDan KoehlDannyS712EncycloPeteyFaendalimasFloscuculi GeniHector BottaiKeith EdkinsKoavfMKOliverMPFMariusmNeferkheperreOhanaUnitedPeterR PigsonthewingRLJThiotrix.

Please have a look at the Migrate Main Page translations to use Special:Translate – or not? question on the "Requests for Comment" page. You may also want to leave a vote at the Translation administrator page regarding this request for translation adminship.
Kind regards, –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:32, 17 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Also, there are 118 unpatrolled edits by that user that needs to be checked. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

I'm not a translation administrator. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know Andy, however most of the above doesn't require translation adminship. Obviously one doesn't need to be a translation administrator to share ones opinions on the RfC or the translation adminship request, and while patrolling it's easy to see that for example the Template:Species of the week-sat page isn't a correct translation (still in English) and thereore should be deleted. But no problem, I can do the patrolling myself. :-) Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:51, 17 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I was referring to the fact that you listed my name after writing "Attention fellow translation administrators". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:33, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah okay – sorry, my mistake. It's the result of a copy/paste error on my part. – Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 13:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All of the user's edits are now patrolled. All pages that were still in English (marked as Santali but not actually translated) have been deleted. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:27, 21 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
For the record, discussion was archived at Wikispecies:Requests for Comment/Archive 3#Migrate Main Page translations to use Special:Translate or not? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I’m not sure if I’m right here, please direct me to the correct place if not. I found the page Wikimedia Foundation in the main namespace (created by User:Dan Koehl), even though it’s not a taxon. I think it makes no sense here and should be deleted, but it’s not that clear case that it would qualify for speedy deletion. Could someone delete it? If not, why not? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 12:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moved, for now, to Wikispecies:Wikimedia Foundation. I've left a redirect, while it's discussed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bureaucrats' Noticeboard

I've created Template:Bnheader to be used as a header on a future Bureaucrats' Noticeboard page. Please have a look and make any improvements you may see fit. The two templates Template:Anheader and Template:Tanheader can be used for comparison – they are used as headers here on the Administrators' Noticeboard and on the Translation Administrators' Noticeboard, respectively. (As a side note I think the template should be set up for translation prior to creating the actual Bureaucrats' Noticeboard.) – Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 09:09, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Do we need a Bureaucrats' Noticeboard? Why not just make it redirect here; we're hardly overwhelmed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, I don't think we need one to a 100%, but it may be good for consistency since we already have the Administrators' Noticeboard, the Interface administrators' Noticeboard, and the Translation Administrators' Noticeboard. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:04, 27 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
I am not going to say no to it but I can also see Andy's point. It may be a useful place for some discussions occasionally. I do not imagine it will get much traffic though. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 13:31, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

─────── Sending a ping to my fellow bureaucrats Dan KoehlKeith EdkinsMPFOhanaUnited (minus Scott who already answered) so they can have a say. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 14:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

I don't have a strong opinion on it. But I just don't see the needs for a new page which will only further segment discussions into different places. OhanaUnitedTalk page 14:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ditto, I don't see any real need for an extra page - MPF (talk) 15:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

──── Noted. I will not create a Bureaucrats' Noticeboard. Thanks for all input, friends. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 21:03, 29 September 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Blok request

Dear Admin; please block user: Cromium3 Drummingman (talk) 20:41, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The account is globally locked now. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:45, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Request for block

Please block Hardcore gay hater named kamen rider saber (talkcontribsblock logall projects) reason: Vandalism.--Syunsyunminmin (talk) 02:06, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done. – also blocked another bandal on same page. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 02:56, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Multiple vandalism accounts to block

The users AHAwikispecis, Penowiki and Wikileonie all appear to have vandalised the Village Pump and the Main Page's talk page together (as well as editing each others' user pages), oddly by copy+pasting text from Wikispecies' help pages and possibly other places. It's clear they all need to be blocked in any case. Monster Iestyn (talk) 13:47, 1 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All three blocked for multiple account abuse, all socks using same IPs. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 10:42, 2 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"Bots" templates in user page code

I guess the extensive use of the {{Bots}} template on the user page of 怪獸卡片 (talkcontribsblock logall projects) is a bit overkill, but it isn't particularly harmful, is it? By the way their Chinese user name means "Monster card". Their user pages on Wikidata and Meta contains the phrase 自由的維基 i.e. "Free wiki". Tommy Kronkvist (talk) 21:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Update: The account is now globally locked and was indefinitely blocked on Meta-Wiki on October 5 for LTA and as a sock for User:Aimasters (also globally locked). Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

See also code on the user page of 馬克祖克柏 (talkcontribsblock logall projects) The user name translates to "Mark Zuckerberg", and the account is indefinitely blocked on MediaWiki and Meta-Wiki for the same reasons as above. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

It was globally locked. Otherwise, I would have blocked the account on the grounds of username impersonation. OhanaUnitedTalk page 14:25, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template fix

Hello, this template need some replacement but it's fully protected (it's used in other fully protected template), just replace Wikipedia in categories, thx. --Mohanad Kh Talk 21:45, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done Good eye. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:09, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thx @Koavf, if you have time, this Module also need some Wikipedia replacement --Mohanad Kh Talk 22:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This has 120 instances of "Wikipedia". Are they actually breaking any functionality anywhere? —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:30, 16 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Koavf I think "protectionCategories" part and some tracking-category values --Mohanad Kh Talk 09:08, 17 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, I did a simple replace, but I didn't debug or do any checking on any pages. I really get put out by importing. Please let me know if there are any problems (I did check a couple of pages and don't immediately see any, but it's transcluded a lot of places). —Justin (koavf)TCM 09:34, 17 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will, Thank you --Mohanad Kh Talk 09:37, 17 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Localization suggestion

I posted a requested edit (suggestion) here about "Localization" a few days ago, and I'd like to draw attention to it, and see if it's applicable --Mohanad Kh Talk 23:09, 21 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've replied on the talk page you refer to above. Any further discussions about this matter should take place there. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:40, 25 October 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Block x-wiki vandal

Please block ParlyBoiBoi. They are harassing User:Hey man its josh across multiple different Wiki's and have started harassing me here by making it seem like I'm vandalizing articles here (and have created a vandalistic userpage and talk page here as well) Blaze Wolf (talk) 20:39, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 21:29, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speedy deletion of this duplicate category

Category:CS1 maint: Multiple names: authors list seems like a duplicate of Category:CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list. Please delete it. Thanks. 迴廊彼端 (talk) 15:46, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 21:38, 3 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Persistent vandalism Airtransat236 (talk) 23:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 DoneJustin (koavf)TCM 00:08, 25 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Speedy delete translation pages

Hi everyone, just returned from a month in the Amazon. I note there are 3 speedy deletes for translation pages could a translation admin please take care of these. I have dealt with the other 5 in the category. Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:20, 11 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done I think. I just pressed the button. —Justin (koavf)TCM 00:37, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Scott and Justin: I had a look at this a few days ago, but didn't have the time to figure out whether it was only the separate translation units (<!--T:1-->) that should be deleted, or indeed the entire pages. Hence I didn't take immediate action, since it obviously wasn't an urgent question related to vandalism or the like. After the recent deletions the entire Wikispecies:Localization/el, Wikispecies:Localization/ia and Wikispecies:Localization/tr pages are gone, i.e. the Greek ("Ελληνικά"), Interlingua and Turkish ("Türkçe") versions of the main Wikispecies:Localization page. They're still blue-linked in the "Other languages" page header of that main "Localization" page, but the blue links for any of those three languages points to the deleted pages (showing "This page does not exist", etc).
Now this may be what the person who added the "speedy deletion" templates had in mind – however I'm not sure, considering Justin's "manual" deletion of 3 pages actually resulted in a total of 57 deletions, all in all. That's because the many translation units included in each of the 3 pages are handled separately. It's possible that the "speedy deletion" requests was indeed only meant to refer to some of those separate translation units instead of the whole main pages. This has been a problem before: Please see the post from 16:57, 27 October 2022 at Wikispecies:Translation Administrators' Noticeboard#Turkish Wikispecies:Localization subpage for a similar case. That time I made a mistake, which has made me a bit more cautious when it comes to deleting anything that has to do with translations.
I haven't fully checked the pages or actual translation units so please note that I'm not saying that any of Justin's deletions were wrong (nor Scott's, for that matter...) but simply that things can be a bit tricky when it comes to deleting translations or pages related to them. Ideally one should walk through all of the separate translations units, check the translations and then delete them one by one, rather than in chunks. The downside is that it can take quite a lot of time. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:14, 12 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
We also can't leave the pages in speedy deletion indefinitely, so I don't know what to do. :/ —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree: naturally Category:Candidates for speedy deletion needs to be kept as clean as possible. Personally I think the whole current system with translations and localizations is substandard. Perhaps @Kaganer has some ideas about how all of this could be made in a better, quicker and above all more user friendly way? He's a translation administrator not only here at Wikispecies, but also at MediaWiki, Meta-Wiki, Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata, Wikimedia Incubator, Wikimedia Outreach, as well as at Russian Wikipedia. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 22:34, 12 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]
This is absolutely true. The current localization system is a uncomfortable mixture of two different approaches. And in my humble opinion, you need to completely migrate to the translation extension system. To do this, you need to draw up a migration plan, and gradually execute it.
I see my mission here to help maintain the pages related to the translation extension. I'm afraid too actively promote my ideas, and I try to work only by direct requests from the native participants in the project. Kaganer (talk) 20:26, 13 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
About current case: i'm see that Wikispecies:Localization/el was deleted twice - 27.10 and 10.12. What there happened?
I'm not an regular admin and i'm don't see hidden revisions.
What was the reason for the removals? Who put the quick delete template, and where exactly? Let's ask this user, what he/she had in mind specifically?
If the admin who deleted these pages did not fully understand what he was doing, then why did he do it? I believe that in the case of translatable pages, _never_ you should delete entire pages - but only individual translation units.
Therefore, in the {{Delete}} needs to add check for page status:
  • IF EXISTS
    • subpage ../en for current page
      OR
    • current page is subpage AND exist page with name like {{BASEPAGENAME}}/en
  • THEN
  • ELSE
    • current behaviour
Kaganer (talk) 20:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

──────────── @Kaganer: Thank you a lot for your thoughts above! Right now several of my elderly close relatives are hospitalized so I'm a bit pressed for time and can't give an extensive answer right away. However as far as I can recall I think that it was the translation administrator @1234qwer1234qwer4 who added all of the deletion requests to the files mentioned above. It was then me who deleted the Greeek Wikispecies:Localization/el and Interlingua Wikispecies:Localization/ia pages. However I realized my error and didn't go ahead to also delete the Turkish Wikispecies:Localization/tr, instead I "undeleted" the Greek and Interlingua versions: see Translations:Wikispecies:Localization/1/el and Translations:Wikispecies:Localization/1/ia for logs of that. A bit later our sysop, translation administrator and CheckUser @Koavf deleted them all, hence some of the pages were deleted twice (see Translations:Wikispecies:Localization/1/tr for the Turkish page log). As mentioned above this rendered a total of 57 deletions, most of them "automatically" as they where parts of the respective language's main pages. With more than 2.4 million constructive Wikimedia edits Koavf is one of our most highly regarded contributors, and I'm 100% confident that the deletions were all made in good faith and with good intentions.

Please note that I will be happy to assist with more detailed data as soon as I'm not tied up with personal matters at hospitals, plus have the ability to edit from a "real" computer rather than handheld devices. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Alright, here we go again... If the admin who deleted these pages did not fully understand what he was doing, then why did he do it? – indeed, @Kaganer, though the answer disappointingly appears to be I just pressed the button (see above). Unfortunately (phab:T154183) marking the translation units for deletion is only possible while simultaneously, sometimes confusingly, transcluding the template onto the whole translation page at the same time. And now we have to deal with the joys of undeleting translations again... 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:21, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The reason why is not because I deleted it. The reason why is because it was requested. If undeletion is requested, then please tell me which pages need to be undeleted and I will. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:52, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually the reason is a misunderstanding, since my deletion request was intended for the translation unit, not the translation page where the tag ended up also appearing (I explained this above). Undeletion is needed for all the translation units of the affected pages deleted by FuzzyBot, except the ones which had the deletion tag, and (for attribution) the whole translation pages themselves, which can only be restored while temporarily unmarking the original page from translation though. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:07, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All the units are undeleted. I cannot undelete Wikispecies:Localization/el, Wikispecies:Localization/ia, or Wikispecies:Localization/tr. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:05, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yep this is a bit of a mess. I never deal with the translation pages simply because I am not a translation admin. Although a crat and CU I theoretically can of course, I think, never tried. For me I would prefer that Translation deletion requests go to a separate category to at least try to avoid this a bit. I also hope people do check the usage of any page marked for deletion but particularly in this case. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 03:19, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. That is because they can only be restored while temporarily unmarking the original page from translation. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
About phab:T154183 - see my proposal above; after this change explained problem will be eliminated. Kaganer (talk) 19:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fixed this myself now with Special:Redirect/logid/5581395, Special:Redirect/logid/5581396. Thanks. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:29, 22 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I will do it, if receive regular admin rights. Kaganer (talk) 19:09, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can request them at WS:RFA. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:14, 15 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For this issue need to synchronously making some actions required translate admin or regular admin rights.
Coordinating this between two users is not very convenient. Kaganer (talk) 18:55, 16 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

───────────────── @Kaganer: I would be happy to support your nomination particularly as a Translation Admin if you wish. Your expertise in these issues would be welcome I have also supported user:1234qwer1234qwer4 recent request for admin rights for similar reasons. We are a small wiki hence expertise from specialist users from other wikis who are willing has significant benefits to us here. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 00:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Scott! Please note that User:Kaganer was granted translation admin rights already back in September 2017 as a result of this poll in which you also took part. Please see Wikispecies:Administrators#Requests for adminship for all current requests for adminship. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:25, 16 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Speedy deletion – taxon pages

There are currently 6 taxon pages listed for speedy deletion: Asellus strinatii, Astrophyton panamense, Autolytus simplex, Clymenella somersi, Docophorus cancellosus and Goniocotes waterstoni. They were all added to the Speedy deletion category by User:MathXplore using TwinkleGlobal and all since they're broken redirects. This is true, however please note that all of the 6 taxon pages are also linked to from other Wikispecies taxon pages or reference templates. In most cases those links should be tended to prior to deletion. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 13:42, 12 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Resolved. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 05:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

The "Global" external links template

Please have a look at Template talk:Global — Guidance on using this template? if you think you have any extra or otherwise helpful information. Thanks! –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 04:26, 22 December 2022 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Block request

173.184.132.32 (talkcontribsblock logall projects) : disruptive editing, has a similar history on the English Wikivoyage too. --SHB2000 (talk) 01:16, 25 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Done 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 01:20, 25 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nikolaevna speedy delete request

Not so sure on this one I think it has some uses. For example I personally know one of the authors on the Nikolaeva page which is similar and I know she only publishes under Nikolaeva. I am thinking there could be enough confusion on these names to keep these disambiguation pages. Any comments? Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:40, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This – unlike the mentioned Nikolaeva – is actually not a family name (in particular not a second name in Russian families as the deletion request states) but a w:patronymic, which is even less significant than a given name (and is only significant in combination with the latter at all). At least one deletion request on Wikipedia concerning a patronymic page was successful, and my point for deletion here would be even stronger since Wikispecies does not even contain disambiguation pages for given names. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The practice is make disambiguation only for surname (the authority part of the name and the only necessary for WS scope), not first or second names. It would not be a case of setting precedents. Burmeister (talk) 21:42, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Since this does not appear to be linked anymore, I've deleted the page accordingly. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:47, 30 December 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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