This is an archive of closed discussions. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this archive.
Nutall got his Greek grammar wrong on this name. He intended the name to be based upon Greek φωρ to mean "thief of the tree", but that would have given Phorodendrou. Instead, he used Phoradendron, which would derive from φορα "act of carrying, bearing", and means "carrying the tree". --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:55, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, leucarpum means "white fruit". Note that Greek has more than one word that is translated as "white", and in this case, the "white" refers to "light, bright, or clear", so that "light-colored fruit" is possibly closer to a literal translation. However, the fruits of this mistletoe are a very white color at maturity, so "white fruit" is probably the simpler and more apt translation. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:42, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Tommy, I would need some tutorials on Wikispeices tools, to make sure I could make valuable contributions - Khoun75 (talk), 08:43 pm, 21 January 2020 (EST)
@Khoun75: The "tools" mentioned by Peter above are the MediaWiki:Edittools that automatically shows up at the bottom of all Wikispecies windows when editing a page using the text-based editor (so called "wikitext editor"). I don't think they will show up if you chose to edit a page in the new(ish) "visual editor" instead (on a computer), or in "mobile view" (using an iOS or Android unit). You can chose between using the wikitext editor or the visual editor in the user preferences (top-right menu, close to you user name when you're logged in. Look in the "Editing" subsection.) Despite the name the Edit Tools really aren't any proper "tools" at all: they're merely shortcuts. Clicking any of the code strings in the tools will simply insert that code string at your caret (insertion point), which of course is easier than actually having to enter them using the keyboard. Most of their functionality is described on the Help:Contents page and, above all, in the eleven help pages listed as subsections on that page (the ones called "General Wikispecies", "Taxonavigation section", "Name section", "Reference section", etc.) Tommy Kronkvist, 08:18, 22 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@Tommy Kronkvist: Thank you for your kind assistance. It helps. I'm learning a lot. Khoun75 (talk), 12:20 am, 23 January 2020 (EST)
┌─────────────────────────┘
You're welcome. Also, there's no need to add a "Reply to" template (often called "Ping" template) if you write to someone on their user talk page. The "owner" of the user talk page (in this case me) will always automatically get a note if there is a new message waiting. The "Reply to" function is only needed if you want to reach someone else than the user a talk page belongs to, or of course in talk pages that aren't connected to any user account at all (for example the Village Pump or talk pages for taxon pages e.g. Talk:Rodolia iceryae). Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 06:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Why had you made a redirect from Aaron Matthew Bauer to Aaron M. Bauer? As you know we use the full names. I have clean it up again. PeterR (talk) 15:38, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tommy, when I looked to the redirect from Aaron Matthew Bauer to Aaron M. Bauer I saw two names in the history in 2017. Your name first and then from Burmeister nearly on the same time.PeterR (talk) 10:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@PeterR: Hmmm... I don't remember making any such redirect, but I trust that you are right. By the way, the links listed on the following pages should also be changed to "Aaron Matthew Bauer":
WhatLinksHere:A.M. Bauer (currently 34 pages, excluding talk pages which should not be changed)
WhatLinksHere:Aaron Bauer (13 pages, excluding logs and talk pages)
WhatLinksHere:Aaron M. Bauer (one page, excluding talk pages)
┌─────────────────────────┘
Tommy, I get a lot of full names from american and russian authors. Can I ask you to make the links? PeterR (talk) 13:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give me the abbreviation name for Malaysia in Vernacular names like nl=Netherland? I can't find this in templates. PeterR (talk) 11:08, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will be offline most of today, but starting tomorrow I can swiftly handle a lot of redirects and other link fixes related to author names. –Tommy Kronkvist, 07:02, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you make a redirect from Category: Shahrul Anuar M.S. to catogory Shahrul Anuar Mohd Sah taxa? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by PeterR (talk • contribs) 11:00, 21 January 2020.
Can you make a redirect etc. from Category: Mark Yu. Kalashian taxa to Category: Mark Yuri Kalashian taxa? I have already change the names in the author templates. PeterR (talk) 16:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you fix everything from Dmitry A. Dmitriev to Dmitry Alexandrovich Dmitriev? I have already change the names in the reference templates. PeterR (talk) 08:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you fix everything from Vladimir M. Gnezdilov to Vladimir Michaylovich Gnezdilov? I have already change the names in the reference template. PeterR (talk) 10:33, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will start with all of the above author/category link fixes as soon as I've done with correcting old "Wilhelm Peters" links to Wilhelm Carl Hartwig Peters. It's a total of 567 pages. I've already done about 50 % of them but it will still take some time. Regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 12:12, 25 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Can you move every thing from Fedor C. Čiampor Jr. to Fedor Čiampor Jr.? His name is Fedor Čiampor Jr. and not Fedor C. Čiampor Jr.PeterR (talk) 13:48, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you move every thing from Antonio Verdugo Páez to Antonio Verdugo-Páez. Official name is Antonio Verdugo-Páez and his publish name. PeterR (talk) 12:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you goto Arabic version you will get this GUI . By clicking on الحيوانات you will get this page . If you click on فيروسات will get a new page which is not editable ( Protected page ). We want Arab users to be able even read English article (Virus) Omda4wady (talk) 08:14, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: We can't simply erase requests for adminship and user polls. That's against Wikimedia policy and somewhat analogous to the fact that we normally don't erase material from talk pages either. Instead we archive the material so that everyone can follow what's been discussed. In exceptional cases (personal attacks, threats, and such) we can hide material from non-admin users, but in general we don't go so far as to flat-out erase evidence of user activites. Especially not in the Wikispecies and Wikimedia namespaces.
Please see this diff for my edit to the Administrators' page, after I had reverted your removal of the user's request for adminship. It keeps the adminship request intact, but describes why the request can't be dealt with. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 18:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Correct formatting on taxon authority pages
Hello Tommy, Please see taxon authority page (George Orlo Poinar, Jr.). I am following your example but can't get the words "Parasitologist" and "Helminthologist" to appear in lower case. What am I doing wrong? Please advise. Kind regards Nytexcome (talk) 01:26, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Nytexcome. You're not doing anything wrong! Having said that, there's not much you can do to fix the upper/lower case problem here, since whether to use caps or not for {{int:}} objects is governed by the Localization database rather than what we add to the actual taxon- and author pages. I've been thinking of this for a while but fixing it hasn't been on the top of my list. Your note here have changed that, so please give me a day and I'll have it sorted. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 17:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@Nytexcome:Done. As far as I know all of the 192 English terms in the localization database (listed here) are now presented using the correct capitalisation. Please give me a heads-up if you find any errors, and I'll be happy to rectify them. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Author page- and category redirects
Tommy, can you please make redirects and fix the links for the following author pages and "Taxa named by author" categories? PeterR.
Can you move every thing from M. Gonzalo Andrade-C. to Miguel Gonzalo Andrade Correa? in 2019 Neferkheperre create a new M. Gonzalo Andrade-C. So can you move this one to? PeterR (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you add these terms in Bulgarian language, please?
Taxonavigation - Класификация
Name - Име
Synonyms - Синоними
Vernacular names - Местни имена
References - Позовавания
Please add them. ReconnectBalkanMed (talk) —The preceding undated comment was added 17:00, 30 March 2020
@ReconnectBalkanMed:Done – all the above Bulgarian translations are now added. If possible, could you please also replace the fields marked "??" with the relevant Bulgarian translations to the list below as well? Then I can make the Bulgarian part of our Localization database 100% complete.
Please note that some of the words start with an upper case ("big") letter and some start with a lower case ("small") letter. This is important – the words in upper case are always used in the beginning of a new sentence, and the words in lower case are always used in the middle of sentences.
Find all Wikispecies pages which cite this reference
Намери всички страници в Уикивидове, които цитират този източник
List may be incomplete
Списъкът може да е непълен
None
Няма
Notes
Бележки
Purpose
Цел
Reference page
Страница на източника
See also
Вижте също
Syntax
Синтаксис
Template
Шаблон
Templates
Шаблони
Usage
Употреба
@Tommy Kronkvist:Done - most of the terms have been translated in Bulgarian. About the terms block/blocked - it depends on the context; are they meant to be used as in "chunks of text" or as in "deny access"? Also, I don't know what "sockpuppet" means in this case - could you explain or give me an example? Thank you! - ReconnectBalkanMed (talk), 13:01, 07 April 2020 (EET).
A real-life sock-puppeteer with two sock-puppets :-)@ReconnectBalkanMed: Thank you for the great work! As for the "block" (plural "blocks") and "blocked" terms they are used in relation to user accounts that have been blocked from editing, i.e. users that are denied access and forbidden to contribute.
In Wikimedia a "sockpuppeteer" is a registered user who has also created multiple other user accounts in order to deceive or mislead the community. For example a blocked user that has created one or more new user accounts in order to avoid the block. These new, "extra" user accounts are called "sockpuppets" (also known as "marionettes", i.e. "марионе́тки"). In most cases this is prohibited by Wikimedia policy, and then we block both the sockpuppeteer's main account as well as all of his/her sockpuppet accounts. Note that there are exceptions when sock-puppetry is considered okay, for example if Wikimedia personel have one formal account for their role as Wikimedia staff (for example the WMF board members), and a separate account for their non-formal "personal" edits (i.e. like you and me and most other users). However, these valid sockpuppet accounts are always publicly disclosed to the community, while "bad" sockpuppeters almost always try to hide their sockpuppets. The Bulgarian Wikipedia page about Wikimedia sock-puppetry is a bit outdated, but may give more information: Уикипедия: Марионетка.
@Tommy Kronkvist: - Thank you! I added those translations, as well as a few others I had missed. I'm available if anything else is needed/there are any corrections, etc. All the best! - ReconnectBalkanMed (talk), 10:35, 10 April 2020 (EET).
Tommy, can you tell me what is change if you move R. Wills Flowers to Ralph Wills Flowers? First you came direct by the new reference template and could change the text, but now after move you stay wit R. Wills Flowers.PeterR (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Tommy Kronkvist, after your last update of the template sp, it seems to be defect. All species lists are vanished and show the last species only, which is called by template splast. Kind regards, --Thiotrix (talk) 07:51, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Thiotrix, and thank you for notifying me! I didn't manually edit the {{Sp|sp}} template, but it was automatically changed when I imported the {{In title}} template from English Wikipedia at 07:10 (UTC) earlier today. I didn't realize that enWP have a {{sp}} and that it would get imported together with {{In title}}. I think I've fixed all of the errors now, however please contact me anew if you find any more errors in relation to todays imports. Again: thank you! Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist, 08:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Help:Project sources
Hello Tommy! Is there some particular reason to have Catalogue of Life Annual checklist set to 2018 here? 2019 is already available. I'd update it myself, but I wasn't sure if possibly there was some reason to have it this way, so I'm asking :o) --GeXeS (talk) 09:02, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Christopher A.M. Reid
Tommy,
Can you move every thing from Christopher A.M. Reid to Christopher Athol McEwan Reid? PeterR (talk)
@PeterR: I'm still only about half way through the list above with the old redirect requests. It takes a lot of time since the pages also have other errors such as "BASEPAGENAME", incorrect lists of authored taxa- and publications, etc. I will of course correct them all, but it will take some time so please be patient. Thank you for your understanding. –Tommy Kronkvist, 04:52, 3 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@PeterR: As I think you know, we have discussed this before. It was decided as a result of this discussion and voting about removing BASEPAGENAME. That was in 2017. After that all of the community have stopped using BASEPAGENAME, and we are replacing it with the real page name when we find it.
You, however, said “I use BASEPAGENAME and nothing else” (February 12, 2017) and you have been using it ever since. That is okay, but takes a bit of extra time for the other users since according to the agreement we must clean the pages and replace BASEPAGENAME with the real name. –Tommy Kronkvist, 17:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@PeterR. Thank you. In some cases the taxon name is not the same as the page name. Then BASEPAGENAME does not show the correct taxon name. That's one (1) or the reasons why we decided against using BASEPAGENAME. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Correct formatting of headers (eg. Taxonavigation, Name, etc.)
Hello Tommy, I need to call a significant matter to your attention. Please see recent changes to section headings made by user Caftaric. (see page "Siphonostomatoida" as an example). He has added a space between the = and the { at rhe beginning of the heading and a space between the } and the = at the end, for the following headings:
==Taxonavigation==
==Name==
===Synonyms===
==References==
==Vernacular names== A spot check of his edits seems to indicate that these changes have been going on for several months. If this is an approved format change, it is most ill-advised since virtually all taxon pages use no spaces in these headings and changing all these pages just to insert these unneeded spaces would be a laborious task when such time could be spent in more construcutive edits. In fact user Rosibot has edited literally thousands of taxon pages adding "int:" to these headers with no spaces in the heading. Unless Wikispecies has now adopted a-free-for-all policy in regard to spacing, I kindly request that you politely ask user Caftaric to refrain from making such changes and that he revert those he has made. I intend no disrespect to this user and hope that none is inferred by him. Even though I have edited Wikispecies for over 16 months I must shamefully admit I don't know how to send a private message to a user and therefore had to mebtion this matter to you on your user talk page. I hesitated to expose this for public viewing and would have sent you a private email but could'nt find your email address. Thank you for consideration of this matter and a prompt reply. Kind regards, Nytexcome (talk) 20:48, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@PeterR. Except for a bad cold and some fever, I'm okay now. I have a lot of things to do though – not only in Wikispecies! – and right now all work is slow since many services and offices are closed because of the Corona situation. Therefore, please stop adding new requests for author-link changes here for a while. Right now I have more than 20 authors from you "old" requests that still needs to be fixed. (Click the right "expand" link here: all authors without the "Y" mark still needs work). In total that's at least 1,000 pages that needs to be edited, and I would like to correct all of them before you add new requests here. My guess is it will take a week or two, and I will send you a message when I'm done – after that you're most welcome to send me new requests again!
As for nationalities, no I'm not Dutch. I understand most written Dutch, but can not write in Dutch myself. As you can read on my public user page: "I'm a Swedish amateur ichthyologist born in Finland". That information has been there for many, many years. On the same page you will also find information about which languages I both speak, read and write in, in the "Babel user information" section on the right side of the page, below the other user boxes. (Swedish, English and German, to be precise.)
Tommy, thanks for your kindly answer. I shall wait with new move from authors till you gave me a message. I have a link to bulletins who are published on google via Naturalis (I,m a member of Naturalis).PeterR (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Andy. Many of those new user accounts were most likely first manually created on a sister project (oftentimes Wikipedia) and then also automatically created here as well as on the other wikis. Those auto-creations are made as part of the Unified login system by the "CentralAuth" extension and its subroutines. Those functions run globally on all our wikis, and helps so that each user don't have to manually create separate Wikimedia user accounts for Commons, Wikidata, Wikispecies, and so forth. That's all normal procedure and usually works well.
Having said that, not all of the accounts you refer to were created by "real" persons. Instead a whole bunch of them are probably spam accounts that were created semi-automatically by spam-bots. Those bots are of course external and has nothing to do with the legitimate bots we run on our servers to automate stuff on Wikispecies. Unfortunately they're rather common though, and the CentralAuth auto-creation service can't differentiate between human users with good intentions and malevolent spammers. It used to be that the user names created by spam-bots often included digits ("RudolphDale9468", "CaraDossett9227", "ZitaHay0670355" and so forth) but it seems the spam bots have become smarter during the past six months or so, and nowadays generate more "normal" user names which may be harder to spot. Thankfully most of the spam accounts never make any edits to Wikispecies: they generally only target Wikipedia and other such high-traffic wikis with a bigger user base, where their spam can quickly reach more users before the spam accounts gets blocked.
As far as I can tell the sum of accounts created the last couple of days is fairly normal, counting both standard user- and spam accounts. So in short: I don't think we need to be more vigilant than normally. Thanks anyway for bringing it up – and stay safe, you too! –Tommy Kronkvist, 03:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@PeterR: Rather soon, but I don't know exactly when. Perhaps in about a week, but I will get back to you with more details. I'm currently working 65–70 hours per week with other, non-Internet related jobs. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 11:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Hi, I saw that you protected Wikispecies:Administrators' Noticeboard/Archive 2020 when I tried to archive some stuff to it - should the current archives (which still need to be edited) be fully protected? If yes, can you please archive some of the resolved discussions? If not, would you please reduce it to semiprotection or remove the protection entirely? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 02:19, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Qx template with the numeric item parameter of the Wikidat object could be inserted into tables instead of translated.
--Rosičák (talk) 04:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this archive.
and 
?. PeterR (talk) 10:52, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Done. Tommy Kronkvist, 08:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC).
me.com
_with_the_sock_puppets_%22Kiki_and_Bubu%22_(2008).jpg)
" mark still needs work). In total that's at least 1,000 pages that needs to be edited, and I would like to correct all of them before you add new requests here. My guess is it will take a week or two, and I will send you a message when I'm done – after that you're most welcome to send me new requests again!
On the same page you will also find information about which languages I both speak, read and write in, in the "Babel user information" section on the right side of the page, below the other user boxes. (Swedish, English and German, to be precise.)
