User talk:Pigsonthewing/Archive 2

Template:Botanist

Hello, Template:Botanist seems (at least to me) no longer to be working, in that it does not change the display of "botanist" depending on one's language settings; do you know why? Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:34, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Maculosae tegmine lyncis: I can see no reason; there have been no recent changes to either the template nor Module:Getlabel on which it depends. Neither have there been any relevant changes to the Wikidata item it uses, d:Q2374149. As it relies on Wikidata, the issue may be transient, so please try again.; after purging the page you're viewing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Template:McNamara, 1997

Hi Andy. This is a very small issue, but I wonder if there is a reason to why you added the same link twice when you created the {{McNamara, 1997}} template? There's one link "page 97" and one link "BHL" but they're both aiming at the same URL. As I said it's not a huge deal, but nonetheless it's a tiny bit misleading and/or inviting confusion. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:32, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist: I simply moved the code from another page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:36, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Okey, thanks. I've cleaned it up a bit. Tommy Kronkvist (talk). 22:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Template for references

Hello, and Thank you for this (and subsequent) help(s). Small question: Should we systematically create templates for references, such as {{Creighton, 1930}}, {{Creighton, 1930b}}... and eventually convert all references from the author's page to templates? Or only for references actually used on taxon pages (to begin with)? Thank you in advance. AtonX (talk) 19:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

@AtonX: Ideally all of them, as they should all correspond to items in Wikidata. But as your comment implies, priority is for works cited on more than one page Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Nepenthes

Hi I requested that the some accepted combinations in the above genus be filled with data rather than deleted, but you deleted them, why? See Talk Pages. They are non-controversial so an easy fix, say 5 mins in total. I am doing a couple of red linked genera. Never mind. Andyboorman (talk) 19:00, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Because I'm not telepathic. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Because it is on the Discussion Page as requested by the request., no need for telepathy. Andyboorman (talk) 19:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Question about how Cite Q displays

Hi Pigsonthewing! I have a question about {{Cite Q}}. I am trying to replicate this current display of data at Template:Roksandic et al., 2021.

• {{a|Mirjana Roksandic|Roksandic, M.}}, {{a|Predrag Radović|Radović, P.}}, {{a|Xiu-Jie Wu|Wu, X.-J.}} & {{a|Christopher J. Bae|Bae, C.J.}} 2021. Resolving the “muddle in the middle”: The case for ''Homo bodoensis'' sp. nov. ''[[ISSN 1060-1538|Evolutionary Anthropology]]'' 1–10. {{doi|10.1002/evan.21929}} displays:

Roksandic, M., Radović, P., Wu, X.-J. & Bae, C.J. 2021. Resolving the “muddle in the middle”: The case for Homo bodoensis sp. nov. Evolutionary Anthropology 1–10. DOI: 10.1002/evan.21929

This differs from my attempt to use Cite Q with the |author=, |year=, & |journal= parameters from {{Citation}}.

• {{cite q| Q109321060 |author={{a|Mirjana Roksandic|Roksandic, M.}}, {{a|Predrag Radović|Radović, P.}}, {{a|Xiu-Jie Wu|Wu, X.-J.}} & {{a|Christopher J. Bae|Bae, C.J.}}|date=2021|journal=Evolutionary Anthropology|doi-access=free}} displays:

Roksandic, M., Radović, P., Wu, X.-J. & Bae, C.J. (2021), "Resolving the "muddle in the middle": The case for Homo bodoensis sp. nov", Evolutionary Anthropology (published 28 October 2021): 20–29, doi:10.1002/EVAN.21929, ISSN 1060-1538, Wikidata Q109321060{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Is there some way that I can suppress the display of (published 28 October 2021) after the journal title so that I can closely replicate the original display of Template:Roksandic et al., 2021? Peaceray (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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@Peaceray: Add |publication-date=2021:

• {{cite q| Q109321060 |author={{a|Mirjana Roksandic|Roksandic, M.}}, {{a|Predrag Radović|Radović, P.}}, {{a|Xiu-Jie Wu|Wu, X.-J.}} & {{a|Christopher J. Bae|Bae, C.J.}}|date=2021|journal=Evolutionary Anthropology|doi-access=free |publication-date=2021}} displays:

Roksandic, M., Radović, P., Wu, X.-J. & Bae, C.J. (2021), "Resolving the "muddle in the middle": The case for Homo bodoensis sp. nov", Evolutionary Anthropology: 20–29, doi:10.1002/EVAN.21929, ISSN 1060-1538, Wikidata Q109321060{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Best, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:23, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

OK! Thank you! Peaceray (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

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18:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Modify affiliation of taxa

@Dherbin: Moved to Wikispecies:Village Pump#Modify affiliation of taxa, for wider discussion.. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Illidops not Illadopsis

Hi friend, looks that you put the template in a wrong page, Illadopsis is Aves, the template Kotenko refers to Illidops, no page.Cheers Hector Bottai (talk) 22:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Hector Bottai: Fixed, thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Kenneth W. Able

Heya Andy! I created this entry today, and saw it's not picking up the Wikidata entry. Went over there and saw there were two entries, so I merged them. Came back here, purged the page. Still not picking it up. I'm not sure how to poke this so that it's right. For now, I've manually added some Authority Control values for now. I plan on making more author entries, so would like to know what to do when I run into this again. Thanks! - user:UtherSRG (talk) 13:46, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh! I needed to point the wikidata entry to our page here. Got it! user:UtherSRG (talk) 13:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Template

I didn't pay attention. pardon. I created this template. Today this template is no longer needed. I use template:IUCN2 instead. Fagus (talk) 15:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Doi and year of publication

Hello Andy. You recently created Template:Hadrava et al., 2019 but at least from here the doi seems to be dead? Also, are you sure about the year of publication? In any case the journal link is wrong: it should be linked to the Wikispecies page ISSN 1399-560X rather than to ISSN:1876-312X (an external site). Information about the article can be found at Brill: https://brill.com/view/journals/ise/51/5/ise.51.issue-5.xml

I've added an alternative Hadrava et al. citation on the Blera page which perhaps may be changed into an alternative reference template and used instead, or added to your template which in that case should of course be renamed "Template:Hadrava et al., 2020". All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:41, 29 November 2022 (UTC).

Mea culpa on the ISSN format, but the rest I simply copied from another user's in-line entry. I note that your linked page has "Volume 51 (2019): Issue 5 (Sep 2020)"; and uses the same DOI. Feel free to edit or rename the template as you see fit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I notified Brill of the DOI issue; they say "We will pass this information on to our DOI specialist. This will probably be fixed within a few days." Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Then I'll wait a few days and take it from there. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:21, 2 December 2022 (UTC).

@Pigsonthewing @Tommy Kronkvist: Hi, just to let you both know, the doi for this template is now resolved as of writing, and the publication date is ...more complicated it turns out. According to the actual article PDF (if you can access it), it states "Version of Record, published online 21 November 2019; published in print 5 September 2020". Weirdly though, the latter is stated to be the online publication date on Brill's website, with no mention of the other. This may be unimportant in the end though, as the publication date on the linked ZooBank record (here) is also 5 September 2020, so this is likely the correct publication date to use under the ICZN code I think, and therefore the publication year for this article should be considered 2020. (Though that is somewhat weird to me regardless, why was the ZooBank record set for the print date and not the electronic version? or is the PDF itself wrong somehow? I don't entirely get what's going on here.) Monster Iestyn (talk) 01:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Need a bit of help please

I tried to fix a lapsus in the name of Apis mellifera adansonii (it was listed as adaMsonii). Only when it was already too late I saw the 'Move' button which is what I should have used. Instead I edited the names on both the Apis mellifera and the subspecies pages instead, and when this did not have the desired effect I created a new page for A.m. adansonii. Now there is an invalid page for A.m. adamsonii dangling unconnected, plus I can not move the image from that page to the new one.

I now know how to do it correctly next time, but I will need some help cleaning up the mess I made this time, please. Sorry and thank you. Ongava (talk) 07:11, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ongava: I've sorted it all out: see Apis mellifera adansonii (and I've deleted the "Apis mellifera adamsonii" page). Thanks for noticing the incorrect spelling of the taxon name. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 07:41, 18 December 2022 (UTC).

Hi Tommy, thanks indeed, much appreciated. I'm still learning :-) Ongava (talk) 07:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Ask for Pigs on the wing

Pigs on the wing, why did you delete my page and my user subpages? Why are they outside the scope of the project? On Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikidata, Meta-Wiki, Wikiversity, Wikispore and Wikiquote all my subpages have been accepted. Why on Wikispecies are you not accepting my page and my user subpages? Leonardo José Raimundo (talk) 16:02, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

For the reasons I gave on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:17, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

In regards to the user's statement above, please note that they are indefinitely blocked on Wikidata, Portuguese Wikipedia + Wikinews, and Spanish Wiktionary. They were blocked for the first time already in 2015, but the indef blocks all stems from 2020–2023. They've made a handful of new out of ambit edits since you deleted their 8 Wikispecies user page subpages in late January this year, however all of those edits were promptly deleted by Burmeister and myself. I've notified the user asking them not to post any more out of scope material.
Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC).

Citation template changes

Hi Andy, in the Wikispecies roundtable at Wikimania you mentioned some changes that the citation template should get. Have these ever been publicly defined or discussed? I'm interested in taking a look... Azertus (talk) 14:47, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

@Azertus: Yes; see Wikispecies:Requests for Comment/Archive 3#Citation templates. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:23, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

A question

Hi Pigsonthewing, Special:Diff/9601478 Are there any benefits to this change? I deleted it because it seemed like it was randomly placed in articles. Wooze (talk) 16:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Wooze: Your edit was correct. There is discussion of the underlying issue at Wikispecies:Administrators' Noticeboard#Recent barrage of IP edits. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Please don't delete Main Page Uzbek version

Hello @Pigsonthewing please don't delete the Uzbek language version, this time it is fully translated:) Mirishkorlik (talk) 07:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Userpage content

Hello, I have a question about a user/userpage I've run across. I know from my multiple years of editing on enwiki, that while there's some general leeway given for users to have off-topic content on their userpage to personalize their space, that there is also a point at which "no webhosting" goes into effect, and I'm wondering if this is the case here.

User:Eajaz, with 18 edits (all Dec 2011, nothing since), has only ever edited their userpage. The 31KB page does not appear to have any focus on animals/species, but appears to be multiple religious based passages (granted I don't know the language personally and was using a translator). Since they haven't edited outside of that one page, it's giving me the impression of noncontributing webhoster.

I was ran across it when addressing some of the remaining Misnested tag errors here on Species and didn't want to invest the time in fixing these syntax issues if the page was running afoul of webhosting, since pages with RtoL languages are harder to fix in a LtoR environment than LtoR languages are. Wondered your take on this. Thanks, Zinnober9 (talk) 16:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

@Zinnober9: I've deleted the user page since it contained links to several external pages containing spam, including links to one web page that is hosting malware. The user hasn't made any edits to any of the other Wikimedia projects: Eajaz (talk • contribs • block log • all projects)

–Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC).

Excellent, thank you! Zinnober9 (talk) 19:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser checkpage

Hi Andy. I saw that you recently added yourself to the user list on Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage. That checkpage is outdated and not actually used anymore. Hence, I took the liberty to add your user name to the current one as well, i.e. Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON. Not that it really matters: I think that all administrator accounts are automatically approved for using the AWB software, even without registration.
–All the best, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 05:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC).

It was an attempt to resolve (or at least test) this issue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of reference to Near & Thacker (2024)

Hello,

I don't understand why you completely deleted my addition of the Near and Thacker reference (2024 (revision 10496006, Feb. 19 2025 on the Thomas J. Near page). I admit that I may not have included it correctly (it was my first edition) but this reference is undoubtedly the most important in Near's bibliography and it would probably have been more useful to correct it so that it appears correctly in the list, no? Or is there something I've misunderstood here?

All the best,

Ltdm (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

@Ltdm: Apologies; that was inadvertent. I have now created created Template:Near & Thacker, 2024 and used that in its stead. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:30, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

@Ltdm and Andy Mabbett. Thank you both. I've created the Christine E. Thacker author page, for the sake of completeness.
–Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:00, 6 March 2025 (UTC).

Hello @Pigsonthewing and @Tommy Kronkvist

Thanks to both of you! All's well that ends well.

All the best, Ltdm (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

The bot is now approved

Your request regarding Pigsonthewing-bot has been approved, and the bot now has bot status. It's also added to Wikispecies:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON. Kind regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 23:45, 22 March 2025 (UTC).

Hello, I think this isn't quite right; thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. I found a few more too, which I have reverted. There seems to have been some server glitches today, which I also experienced with manual editing. There's nothing in the configuration of AWB that could have done this, so I'm assuming that the updates failed mid-way through, but without notification. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:51, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Odd edit

What's the reason for this edit, please? The established format is {{BHL|123456|78}} - see the markup tools below the edit box. - MPF (talk) 21:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

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{{BHL|123456|78}}

78

links to https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/123456

{{BHL|page/123456|78}}

78

links to https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/123456

This is all documented at {{BHL}}; and in recent discussion at Wikispecies:Village Pump#BHL link templates. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

As clear as mud! Why change what worked perfectly well? How do I know when to use BHL | | and when to use BHL | page / | (and what is the difference between them)?? Think I'll go back to the original style of [https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/727051 163], much simpler and easier to put in place. - MPF (talk) 22:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

{{BHL page}} was tagged (not by me) with a proposal to merge into {{BHL}} on 16 September 2023. In all the time since then—eighteen months—neither you nor anyone else raised an objection.

I made clear my plan to enact the proposal on 17 March on our Village Pump, requesting feedback; again, neither you nor anyone else raised any objection.

My request for bot approval to carry out the replacement of transclusions passed, again without a single objection from you or anyone else.

Nonetheless, if you wish to overturn what appears to be clear community consensus for the merger and replacements, you should raise your objection under that VP post, in order that the community at large can consider your arguments. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:05, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Template Q+

Hello Andy! A great many thanks for your recent edits regarding the BHL and Q (etc.) templates. A huge job, done well! You might also want to have a look at this diff regarding the "Q+" template. It's a Birmingham-based IP, so maybe the edit was made by you? If so, I guess everything is fine.
–Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 04:35, 5 April 2025 (UTC).

That was me. All good, thanks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Talk page

My deepest apologies for troubling/inconveniencing you with this, Andy. I am VERY sorry and I hope you can pardon/forgive me.

I sincerely meant no harm regarding the matter, I only wished for others to better understand my POV and background so we (as in other people and myself) could better collaborate/cooperate in future efforts with less risks of misunderstanding. I hope you understand where I'm coming from and that I truly meant no ill will or malice or disruptive intention. I also hope that, should we interact in the future, this does not cause any enmity or hostility.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Tulsi I have acknowledged my mistake and was about to revert the changes myself. Thank you, and I hope that your day goes well and that I have not displeased you too far in any way. I will also send my apologies to other admins.

(If I may, could I request a reply so I know for sure this was received and read? I just want to know for sure that you understand where I'm coming from because I'm extremely anxious and I really don't want to make a horrible first impression and potentially draw hostility from those affected by this including yourself.) MTAMSK (talk) 18:56, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

I bear you no ill-will. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:54, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Wikidatɑ

I constantly change the names of plant species that have been reclassified and remain unchanged in Wikidata (I've tried to do so several times, but was told not to because it would create more problems). I'd like to help change the names of the pages I edit on Wikispecies and those I find duplicates. If you could be so kind as to explain to me in a simple way how to do this, I'd appreciate it. Saludos.--MILEPRI (talk) 11:14, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Most of my work here is around people or publications, or technical. I tend to leave taxonomic decisions to others. I suggest you ask on Wikispecies:Village Pump. The issue you raise is a crucial one, and it would be good to have the answers documented on a help page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:56, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Page access question

Hello! I have a question about Wikispecies that I feel you'd be knowledgeable about. I'm interested in accessing roughly 91 Full protected pages to correct about 500 tracked syntax issues that I'm knowledgeable on correcting and not able to access at this time, and wondered if Wikispecies offered any sort of temporary Adminship to users with a trustworthy track record for accessing Full protected pages for specific corrective tasks, --OR-- if Wikispecies admins temporarily lowered page protections for this sort of thing?

I've done it both ways elsewhere; Lowering on Wikipedia (with the assistance of Primefac), and by temporary Adminship (my successful nom) at Wikivoyage last fall. I'm not looking to be an admin long term or to interfere with any typical admin tasks if going that route here, just seeking temporary access to some pages that I don't currently have access to. Inquiring what the typical route for something like this is here since every wikicommunity is a little different. I'm happy to clarify any questions you might have.

Hope you are having a nice holiday weekend, Zinnober9 (talk) 03:51, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Zinnober9: I think that any of the Wikispecies' administrators would be rather reluctant to lighten the protection of the pages you refer to, since some of them are located in the MediaWiki- or other high-risk namespaces. However, you are welcome to request a temporary administrator-ship here: Wikispecies:Administrators#Requests for adminship.

–Best regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 15:03, 26 May 2025 (UTC).

Seconded. If that fails, I can use AWB, so if there are standard changes I can make them for you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Great, thank you both for the info. Will start that process in the next few days and see how it goes. Cheers, Zinnober9 (talk) 00:26, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Template:VN

Hello! Template question for you. One of the changes in your update to Template:VN today introduced a claimed issue of an unclosed div to most pages using the template, but the template page itself is not reporting any errors, so something I'm not spotting or understanding is blocking it from reaching the end of the template to close.

On the pages using this template that are reporting issues, they appear to have empty language parameters stated, and the error clears when something's written eg:
|en= (error)
|en=engvar (clean)
Also VN with no parameters stated at all is also reporting this error.

Is that something you know how to account for and adjust? I'm not very familiar with template logic and the fix I made for the unclosed boldings and wonky language ig statement, while it did clear a few bolding issues from this template, didn't clear this div issue as I'd hoped. Zinnober9 (talk) 18:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

That's annoying; but no, I can't see what's causing it.

Thanks again for your earlier fixes, BTW. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

If it helps with debugging, even the single-entry version on the Sandbox causes the error. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome. I have a lead on this div issue, but have some loose ends to track down first. VN was done correctly though. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:30, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Long story short, {{Flatlist}} has a quirk that causes closing issues when it encounters empty or invalid parameters.

My discovery here and then asking Jonesey95 questions on enwiki led to this discovery and they discovered a similar issue existed on enwiki as well since the Flatlist template is a near equivalent there.

The relevant discussions to this (on Enwiki):

• Jonesey95 conversation
• Flatlist (enwiki) request.

I'm going to make the VN sandbox version with Jonesey95's changes live due to these conversations, and the Template:VN/testcases behaving as expected. Will leave a talk page comment documenting why this change was done since it's a little atypical.

Shouldn't break anything new, and will fix the 36,500 some pages with the claimed unclosed div. The pages currently not displaying correctly due to cases like 1,2, 7,8 (ie no text in the boxes) won't be affected by this, and won't be reporting any lint errors, so will likely need to be found via a Category page like "Pages using Template:VN with unrecognized parameters" at some point. Zinnober9 (talk) 08:29, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping me abreast of what's happening, I'll reply on the Flatlist talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:48, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I see you adjusted {{VN}}'s flatlist usage back as it had been, any particular reason why? I haven't seen any solution for this flatlist issue yet, and the missing end tag report is repopulating based on this change. I don't object to the change in idea, just not fond of the current state of the flatlist template and the error it reaches in VN this way.

Would going forward (here on species) with the {{Startflatlist}} idea you asked about on enwiki be a reasonable action and then just separating the double duty template into two single focused templates, using startflatlist on VN to bypass this error from the existing flatlist? Zinnober9 (talk) 00:48, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Apologies; that was inadvertent and I have reverted the relevant part of my edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Ok, just checking. Thought it was possible that you were aware of some update or change to flatlist that I wasn't, and wanted to be kept in the loop for that conversation if something had changed. Thanks for the reply. Zinnober9 (talk) 20:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Pasam Nutan contributions

Hi! Some of the names proposed by the user have not been formally published and there are no records in Google searches or in more specific catalogs (such as ASW and RDB). All should be checked for validity before further editing. Regards, Burmeister (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm not aware of any consensus that requires us to keep badly formatted pages in preference to better-formatted pages, regardless of the validity of the taxonomy. You may nominate for deletion any pages you feel you should. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Exactly the validity of the description needs to be confirmed! Naja kodaguensis, Calotes tribonensis or Hyla thotiensis do not exist! They are nomenclaturally invalid. Burmeister (talk) 19:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Mostly done

Hello, I'm aware my admin level expires this week. Thank you for allowing me to clear up these syntax issues here on Wikispecies. I don't foresee needing any extension and fine with it expiring as scheduled later this week.

The remaining issues that I could foresee doing anything with are ones that I don't understand how to access/adjust, and four I don't logically know how to fix, but I'm considering nominating for deletion as unused templates. I'd be interested in knowing if you know how to access the first, and if you have an opinion on the second.

The access/adjust issues are dealing with what I'm going to call "translation boundaries" of 8-10 page sets (original -> translations). These make up the majority of the remaining Missing end tag/stripped tag errors. I asked Tommy here, but I see he's been busy the last two weeks (tbh, so have I). If you happen to know how to access/adjust these, great, if not, I'll let them sit, and possibly direct someone later one who could adjust them with what needs adjusting.

The other issue is relating to four templates that are unused; I don't know how to correct the wikilinking errors in the taxonomy feline series. I asked their creator three weeks ago if they were still desired, but haven't heard back. Is nominating them for deletion based on their unused status (created 2021 and don't appear to have ever been used) at this point in time a reasonable action or would that be too pushy? The five "Don't edit this line" subtemplates used within the feline set, while clean, would also be nominated since they are only used with this feline set. I'm fine with ignoring all nine of these too since they are an isolated set and not being transcribed elsewhere. Any opinion here?

Thanks and hope you are having a great weekend, Zinnober9 (talk) 22:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Translation matters are a dark art to me; maybe ask on Wikispecies:Translation Administrators' Noticeboard?

I have deleted the unused templates. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. It's been pretty quiet over there since my comment about something else 3 weeks ago, but maybe a bigger comment will catch some eyes. Zinnober9 (talk) 12:18, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

It's the same on the main VP - this is a very small community compared to many other Wikimedia projects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

143.44.169.231 and Lithodidae

Hi, Pigsonthewing. The edits you reverted at e.g. Neolithodes diomedeae were from an IP address known on Wikipedia as a sockpuppet of a blocked account. We've blocked the entire 143.44.169.128/25 IP address range, and I suggest you do the same; this user is/was one of the most bizarre cases of long-term abuse at Wikipedia, and he's now trying to write wherever he can, such as by creating articles within Wikimedia Commons categories. I came over to check Wikispecies because I knew he'd weasel his way over here eventually; he's especially obsessed with king crabs. (Edit: this is also the user EditorCrabTwinsLibrary, by the way.)

His edits are not worth having on Wikispecies; he near-exclusively plagiarizes, uses LLMs, writes in broken English when not doing the former two, doesn't check or is terrible at checking his facts, becomes very emotional and lashes out, and importantly never stops when told not to do something. I should know: I advocated for him on Wikipedia to be given a second chance instead of blocked for rampant sockpuppetry and disruptive editing; it categorically did not work. A permanent block is the only option for this kind of editor. TheTechnician27 (talk) 02:43, 6 August 2025 (UTC)