User talk:Lycaon/Archive 3

Archive 1 up to 30 September 2006
Archive 2 October 2006 - March 2007

User:Mackensen impostor

Please rename this user to "Former-user(number here)" as this is definitely not en:w:User:Mackensen, i can confirm this! --Jazzlines22 21:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

re: this madness! // FrankB 07:11, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Ukrainian

Template talk:Languages#Ukrainian/Українська

Asterisks on redirects

These redirects are species that have transferred from Neofuscelia to another Genus.

The three choices are: 1) to leave these synonyms off of the Neofuscelia list altogether and just include those with that are presently in the genus Neofuscelia. In that case someone searching for a species of Neofuscelia that has been changed to another name would never find it and would not be redirected to it.

2) to redirect to currently accepted name as I have been doing but leave off the asterisk.

3) put an asterisks next to the name that is no longer in the genus Neofuscelia and has been transferred elsewhere.

Is your question why am I including species that are no longer in the genus Neofuscelia?

Or why do I have an asterisk next to species that need to be redirected.

I have an asterisk next to the names of species that are no longer in Neofuscelia so that it is obvious that they are no longer the current species name. When you look at the Neofuscelia species page you need to know which ones are in Neofuscelia and which ones are currently in some other genus. This seemed to me to be the best way of doing it. Ed Uebel 19:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Looks as if the redirects are the best workable option at the moment. Lycaon 08:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Welcome

Thanks. Trato de hacer aportes, espero saber cómo. Rewards, --Tano4595 22:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Why you change my edit?

Please clear that, I want to help in Persian version. But you cancel my contributes?! Why?--Majid 08:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page (sorry to have confused Persian with Arabic), Lycaon 08:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Logo bummer

I'm trying to get help on the logo change on IRC. I just got kicked off #wikimedia-tech for some reason and no one responed (except on #wikipedia-en-help to refer me to that tech channel). I think I'm going to create a SiteNotice (similar to en:MediaWiki:Sitenotice) that says: "Congratulations, Wikispecies 100 000+ articles!" or if you think that's not language neutral enough, just "Wikispecies 100 000+ articles!" (hopefully no one would interpret that as some kind of warning/error without the "Congratulations"). --Georgeryp 19:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

(just FYI, I won't be creating a MediaWiki:Sitenotice because I'm not an admin) --Georgeryp 22:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Jaera hopeana

Hello! Does this work "Costa, A. (1853) Relazione sulla memoria del Dottor Achille Costa, di recherché su’crostacei amfipodi del regno di Napoli. Rendiconti dell’Accademia delle Science Fisiche e Matermatiche de Napoli. 2, 167–178" really include primary description of Jaera hopeana, earlier than the work I cited? Andrey A. Kuzmin 25.05.07, 01:36.

Dagger symbol

To follow up about this Trilobozoa change, I'm not sure why, but User:UtherSRG prefers † (the single character) to "†" (see his comment and also Wikispecies:Village pump#Dagger). --Georgeryp 22:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no real difference between the symbol and code. But do you know how to add symbols on the edit toolbar, or templates to the bottom line of the edit box for that matter? Lycaon 05:54, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the MediaWiki software yet, so I do not know how to do either of those... I've put it on my "to do" list. --Georgeryp 17:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Lichen Data

Please look at Flavoparmelia caperata in Wikipedia. This is my suggestion for the format to used for all 17,000 species of lichens.(A brief description in Wikipedia and then a link to Wikispecies) Photos probably could go at either place.) This is not an encylopedia article, but an on line Lichen Flora. Thanks. Ed Uebel 12:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Danish translation

Hi Lycaon

Could you make a link to a danish translation of the front page in the template: Template:Languages?

Its: [[Forside|Dansk]]

Thanks :-) --Malene Thyssen 08:54, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Chordata

Je hebt gelijk dat Chordata er in mijn versie een beetje raar uitzag, maar bij mijn weten wordt de Myxini niet als incertae sedis beschouwd, alleen de rang klopt niet helemaal. Ik zou ook niet weten hoe dit het beste kan worden gedaan. Ucucha (talk) 07:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Androsace

I am guessing if you scrolled down further on the diff of Androsace, you'll see I actually formatted all the species names using the "sp" template and added interwikis, so I'm hoping you wouldn't mind a revert back to my version? The use of the "sp" template saves a lot of space so although the size of the page decreased alot, information was actually added. (P.S. Best of luck on your trip) --Georgeryp 16:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

My edits

In what way is crating a page about a species and adding a useful icon to a template a test? I don't get it. White Tiger 00:21, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Note

I posted this on my talk page but I will here as well. If my bee article contained little content, a more experienced editor could hve expanded it. White Tiger 20:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Insect

Why are you deleting it when it is useful? White Tiger 00:13, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Don't should you participate in the Talk:Neomura page before deleting the article? You should explain there why de page must be deleted without possibility of correction of defects or other people will create the page. Each day more people use this taxon. 88.25.161.130 15:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I think you should explain in the talk page of the deleted Neomura article why you think the page can't exist. 88.19.142.115 17:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

did so. Lycaon 08:32, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Sawubona

Hello, colleague. I am a new user in Wikispecies. I'd tried to introduce a swati (siSwati) vernacular name, but Template:VN is protected to add the ss option. The Template:Ss is yet created. Please, as sysop, may you do it?. Thanks.--Jatrobat 23:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

done (and happy editing). Lycaon 08:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Ngiyabona.--Jatrobat 11:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Edits

Please do not add empty sections. They may confuse bots, and will be added later anyway with contents. Thanks Lycaon 21:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

o, ok. Thank you -- IvanTortuga 23:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Me again. When 'filling in' species pages, could you also fill in the ==Name== and ==Reference== sections (e.g. as in Hypocuma dentatum? Thanks Lycaon 23:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I was just filling them in because I didn't want people to be discouraged to work on them because they weren't there. You know what I mean? But if its that big of a problem, which I don't know if it is or isn't. I can try it will make the "work" load bigger. -- IvanTortuga 00:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

When the name/reference sections are not complete, the lemma has little value, but on the generic level it would show a blue link, which gives the impression that the species level is done. You catch my drift? Lycaon 00:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, kind of. But did you get what I ment though? I was hoping people would fill that in after it was started, so that they wouldn't have to do it all. But if thats more damage than help I can stop. -- IvanTortuga 00:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Yep, I understood. Be assured, you are not doing any damage, but you may use the time you invest here in a better way if you would look up name and reference sections and add them when creating a species level entry. I know, it's slow going and it means a lot of looking up and researching (even for biologists), but you create much more valuable contents. Regards. Lycaon 12:37, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I was just making sure it wasn't any harm. I will also start doing a quick look for the name to see if I can find a realistic name and ref. I also hope you didn't think I was being mean I was just trying to figure things out. Yea looking up stuff does take alot of time. My classes require me to do alot of categorizing for insects and such. But at the end its all worth it. -- IvanTortuga 16:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Delisting

Do you know where I can find the rules for dealing with delisting candidates? Are they essentially the same as for promotion (periods, number of votes needed, etc?). --80.177.86.57 06:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Kiswahili names

Hi Lycaon. When I enter a Kiswahili vernacular name in the appropriate template, why then does it not show on the page? ChriKo 11:11, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for solving this! ChriKo 14:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Identity of grasshopper

You are right about the grasshopper you photographed in Namibia. It is Acanthacris ruficornis ruficornis, a common garden grasshopper in many parts of Africa. ChriKo 14:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you Lycaon for the block of my IP address (user:128.235.249.80) for infinite. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have cross you. I had crated “I hate my cat” accent to make a talk page for my IP talk page. To thank for my block, I thought that you could talk on the ip’s talk page but not create them. The password of the accent had bin scrambled. I contribute to Wikipedia but I have no plans for editing Wikispecies.05:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hola

Thank you por tu Bienvenida. Estoy muy ocupado con el trabajo, pero intentaré contribuir con una fotos que estoy subiendo a commons.Alberto Salguero 12:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

First bit of liverwort help

Thanks for offering to help. The first item that ought to be handled is moving Hepaticophyta to Marchantiophyta, since that is the taxon-based name. I can't do this because the target Marchantiophyta exists (as a redirect). If you could make this move, it would help!

I've also started a list of things to be deleted on my User page, although some of them have yet to be orphaned. These are taxa of intervening ranks that (a) are never used by professional bryologists except for those who publish outlines of classification, and (b) do not remotely correspond to any currently published phylogenies. The most recent "revised" classification schemes are pointedly not cladistic, and don't even reflect the topology of the cladograms published alongside them in the same article. Very few bryologists seem to be cladists or adhere to the principle of naming only monophyletic groups (or even of reflecting phylogenetic hypotheses in a classification!).

In any case, the most widely used classification scheme for the rank of order and above dates from the late 1960s (with class ranks modified in 1977); it is rather easy to learn and follow, since it divides the liverworts into two major classes (each probably monophyletic), and then subdivides each class into 3 orders. This is the system in use on the Wikipedia page for w:Marchantiophyta (because I put it there a little over a year ago), and you can see on that page at one glance all the taxa from the rank of division down to and including all six orders. Since one of these orders is known to be paraphyletic (containing another order deeply nested within it), a revision will come eventually, but the phylogeny will have to be worked out to some degree of certainty before the taxonomy can be meaningfully revised. Two other orders each contain only a single living genus, and probably belong within other orders, but the morphology is so radically different that placement of these taxa is uncertain and hotly debated at times. --EncycloPetey 17:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Hi Lycaon. I am puzzled why U ve been rolling back the "Cervus" page to remove pictures of Cervus unicolor and Cervus nippon while keeping Cervus elaphus? Please inform..

Sysop buttons needed :)

Hi, please take a look at this user contribs, probably the infinite block would be good. I've tried to clean the mess up, but there is one redir I'm not able to undo without sysop permissions, and some of pages need to be deleted (marked by me by the {{delete}} template). Thanks. Nova 11:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sharedupload/ru

I don't know what happend, but now it doesn't work. Please replase string {{localurl:Commons:Image:{{{1|{{PAGENAME}}}}}}} with {{localurl:Commons:Image:{{PAGENAME}}}}. I'm not sure that it's help, but I have no more ideas. ~ putnik 02:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not testing...

... Please check the editline I provided along my most recent edit. BTW, I'd reccomend checking througly all the contributions made by the user mentioned here, one of which I had just fixed by testing... :) --213.203.155.48 23:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

ok :-) Lycaon 06:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Banned

WP:BAN doesn't apply here, right? Connell66 18:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope, but as we don't have an admin permanence, we are rather stricter than on en:. I will keep an eye open though. Lycaon 18:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Môge

MÔge, ik vroeg me onlangs af waarom er geen Nederlandstalige species bestaat, ik ga dit denk ik aanvragen, heb je eventueel interesse daaraan mee te werken? Henk_K 06:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed changes

Would you please give some feedback at wikispecies:Village Pump#Proposed changes from Henk_K? Thanks --Open2universe 23:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

test layout

MÔj, what do you think of this testlayout? : Harpago , it save a lot of space within sight, the tabel as created can be formatted into a template, so user only have to fill in some answers, the template place them where you want it, we even can work with coloures and images, Henk_K 17:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

categorieën

Hoi, ik was enthiousiast begonnen aan het categoriseren naar auteur en jaar, op zich een logisch iets, en het zou positief bij kunnen dragen, maar je hebt gelijk, alleen Linnaeus heeft al ruim 4 en half duizend soorten in zijn 10de editie van 1758, de categorieën worden inderdaad wel erg lang, aangezien hij niet de enigste was, Henk_K 21:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Please help and explain

Hallo, ich möchte nach dem Sinn dieses Projekts fragen. Wie ich gesehen habe, sind gewisse Änderungen nicht gerade erwünscht. Können Sie mir erklären, warum ein Species-Artikel nur aus Headers bestehen soll, die in der Help-Sektion beschrieben sind? Diese haben fast keinen informativen Wert. Was sind die Gründe, dass nur ein Informationsminimum erfasst werden soll? Soll das Projekt als reine Encyklopedie dienen (in diesem Fall nur Liste von Taxa, die ich auch woanders finden kann). Oder später als Platform für Enthusiasten und Spezialisten, die rellevante Informationen ergänzen und nutzen? Danke User:Kingaspis 16:50, 21 October 2007

• Schandalig dat je geeneens het fatsoen kan opbrengen antwoord te geven, ik had je toch waarlijk hoger ingeschat mijn besteHenk_K 15:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

• Moet ik dan al mijn daden hier aan jou verantwoorden? Lycaon 01:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Natuurlijk niet, maar ik was zelf ook benieuwd naar het antwoord hierop, en ik was op dat moment wat overgevoelig in verband met het meteen wissen van een voorbeeld artikelen over hoe een tijdvak (Early Cambrium) kan worden gebruikt en het afwijzen van al mijn voorstellen, waarvan ik nog steeds overtuigd ben dat wij hier meer informatie kunnen verschaffen dan dat nu gebeurt. Ook in meerdere talen, dit hoeft geen beletsel te zijn voor het in database structureren van de headers ivm het automatisch invullen van taxoboxen, de overige informatie kan daarnaast gewoon als normale tekst geplaatst worden, informatie als voorkomen en verspreiding en bij fossielen bijv. de tijdspanne waarin een soort voorkomt, Henk_K 23:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Please explain why did you delete information

Could you explain me (and others) why did you delete information about genus Archaeatya (Decapoda Atyidae). I know maybe it was not written in the correct style, but you could verify the information in the referneces. Maybe you also deleted the article about Archaeatya chacei becaouse it was in spanish, but the first description for this specie was in spanish and there is no traduction actually. Please, restore all the information, and maybe you can correct all mistakes that I´d made. You dont have to delete all the information for a few mistakes.--Mariodelreal 15:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Cheers

Thanks for that - I've seen you around on the commons, just making my accounts everywhere 'cos I'm worried about SUL. Cheers, Pumpmeup 08:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Paranthropus aethiopicus

What was the point of reverting MY edit which stated Paranthropus aethiopicus was a Parantropus, to an earlier edit stating it was an Austrilopithecine???T-Virus 07:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I mean the name was changed TOO Paranthropus aethiopicus 'cos it wasn't actualy a Austrilopithecine.T-Virus 07:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

User block

I saw you blocked for one month the user leopardo planante leopardo on the first of november. He's by far the most famous troll in it.wikipedia, with hundreds of sockpuppets. Be carefull, his posts can be full of errors!! --87.20.244.219 23:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops

Um, I'm embarrassed to admit that I made the following posting accidentally on the Lycaon discussion page, not on your user page. I've moved it here now. --MichaelMaggs 23:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Adding images

Hi Hans. Where I have a species image such as Image:Mycena galopus var candida (White Milking Bonnet).jpg I thought it might be nice to add it here. But when I look for the relevant species page, I often find it has not yet been created. Is it OK (and is it helpful) for me to create the page, copying the general layout from other pages, or do you prefer that new species pages are created systematically rather than at random? As you know, I'm not a biologist, and am a bit concerned that by more or less mechanically copying layouts etc I might do more harm than good. --MichaelMaggs 16:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC) Nudge... --MichaelMaggs 21:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why this is on the talk page for African Wild Dogs, but there's no reason not to create a page if you have all the species' taxonavigation data. We're looking to expand everywhere, not focusing on just one area or another. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Arrgh, that would explain things. Of course I meant to post on User:Lycaon's page. --MichaelMaggs 23:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

|:-) Hi Michael. I've been looking for you message already, but I didn't think of looking at my namesake's page. Yes, as EVula states, you can create a new lemma for a species. Even if taxonavigation is not complete, add at least the Genus name as a template, so that when the top down approach reaches the species everything will be fine. What would be more important than just taxo, is the name section (with author) and the reference section. You don't have to be a biologist, more like a detective ;-), to find that info. Lycaon 12:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, many thanks. I'll try a few. --MichaelMaggs 16:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Exposing Password

Hello. User:長野のそうじろう exposed his password on his Userpage. Plase block him immediately. --133.6.124.41 17:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC) (I usually active in Wikipedia-japan User:かぼ)

Thank you for your swift blocking. He also exposed many other wikimedia project and was blocked indefinitely. --133.6.124.41 14:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Classification is never provided

Hi,
It is a desperate call that I make here. Wikispecies is doing wrong, many french admin think so, and I can't let it happen without reacting. I already posted something here, without success.
Wikispecies has for purpose to provide the classification of taxons, right?
But each taxon has a different content and parents depending on the classification. And there are a lot of classifications for each taxons.:

• Here is a small list of those classifications.
• Here is an perfect sample that shows that a taxon name doesn't mean much if you don't provide the classification name.
• commons:Category:Liliopsida Here is a sample that commons now provides the classification. And of course, there are classical classification and phylogenetic classifications.

1. From what I understand in reading your articles, wikispecies provides only one classification for each taxon (in wikifrance, we provide 1 classical and 1 phylogenetical classif per taxon)
2. But you never provide the classification followed.

I think it is urgent that you provide the classification followed by each article in the article. You will discover that all your articles follow different classification.
Look at Liliopsida. It is a total shame. The classification is not provided. The reason is that nobody ever described it that way. Cheers Liné1 06:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Philiptdotcom

I don't think this username is really acceptable; it promotes a real website, which is disallowed by policy. ---- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Italics

I will do such, and fix all the omissions. ---- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 00:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Lycaon 00:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Every one of my creations has now been fixed. Sorry for the error; very silly of me. ---- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 01:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Agh, if you knew the number of my own entries that I already have reformatted... ;-) Lycaon 15:12, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess we sometimes trip in our zest to overhaul new creations ;) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 15:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

MSW references

 Done Gone through all of Mammalia to add them. Pretty confident I've done them all. MichielT 11:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

WRMS

Merci beaucoup pour tout le travail que t'a fait sur ce template. Lycaon 09:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Félicitation pour ton francais, il est parfait ;-).

I did not know this web site, but it seems fairly great. It treats well the synonymes, the taxon tree, the authors, the references...

So I created the same template on wikifrance.

Do you wish me to add it to wikispecies ?

By the way, Your photographs and illustrations are really wonderful.

Cheers Liné1 10:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Message from Mariusm

hi,

I see you're occasionally editing my contributions. Specifically you remove the "Distribution" section. I think it is a shame, because this information makes the page somewhat less dry and more attractive, and may attract more users and interest. The majority of non-English speakers recognizes geographic names universally, so I don't see a strong case for these deletions. Instead we need to concentrate in ways to add more information to the page and make it more meaningful and attractive. Links and Latin names are really not enough!!! It scares off the visitors!!!

Please have a look at the help section an more particularly at scope. Wikispecies is a taxonomy database in the making. Structure and scope have to be adhered to quite strictly. Distribution data is something that should go on description pages on wikipedia. As we (try to) avoid prose (English language) as much as possible (it is not feasible with the current structure to create different language version for all the taxa), these kind of data, though of course very valuable, have no place on Wikispecies. Regards. Lycaon 09:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not convinced in the necessity of the restrictions you're imposing. I happen to be familiar with some species databases, and all include the distribution data. If you conduct a poll, I'm sure the majority will agree with me. Can't see any harm done by some additions as long as the main format remains consistent.

I see you expend a lot of efforts in fighting vandalism etc. This is very nice, but I wish you spent a little energy in positive ways also. For example: why won't you promote a campaign to make a concentrated effort to finish a section such as "Mammalia" to completion, so we have a showcase as to the potential of this project of wikispecies. I'm trying now myself to finish the "Chiroptera" (bats). ^Mariusm 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Images

Why are you erasing the distribution map of Chrysanthia and Anogcodes? (I'm not an expert on wikispecies and maybe there is a style convention unknown to me). --Xvazquez 12:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Megasoma

Русский понимаете? Что не так в Megasoma? --Еволюционист 11:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

My userpage

Hello. Why did you edit my useprage?(You changed my template). Kasia1986 11:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

En-4 is meant for people who speak/write the language at a near native level. I noticed several mistakes on your user page. If you don't agree with this assessment, feel free to revert. Regards. Lycaon 12:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for a new MAIN PAGE

Please can you tell me what you think about this as a subtitute for the MAIN PAGE. It should be updated weekly and will be a lot more attractive than the preset one. I'm willing to work on the updates.

Mariusm 13:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I basically have no problems with a change, but I'm a bit weary thinking at the work involved in keeping it up to date. That effort could be better invested IMO. Lycaon 23:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this site should have an inherent "mission", however slight and unassuming, otherwise ours would be a futile work, or just a game of sorts. That mission cannot basically be scientific, given the fact that most of the participants here are non science-oriented. My vision of that mission then, is to promote the love and awareness of living creatures at large. This can be done by painstakingly cataloguing as we are doing here, but also by infusing interest and recognition in animals and plants, and this "face lift" which I propose can promote us somewhat towards this goal.

Mariusm 11:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with most of you statement but not with the fact that the mission cannot basically be scientific. That should be our foremost aim. In other words, we should attract more scientists. A taxonomical database should IMO NOT primarily be constructed by non-scientists. that would be a contradictio in terminis. The chances that we end up with a crooked database is unacceptable. Lycaon 17:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Bot flag request for User:Computer

• Bot operator: User:White Cat (Commons:User:White Cat) - En-N, Tr-4, Ja-1
• List of botflags on other projects: Bot has a flag on wikimedia (meta,commons) wikipedia (ar, az, de, en, es, et, fr, is, ja, ku, nn, no, ru, sr, tr, uz, simple...) (See: m:User:White Cat#Bots)
• Purpose: Double redirect fixing, commons delinking (for cases where commonsdelinker fails).

-- Cat ^chi? 17:51, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

 Done Lycaon 18:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

vandalism!

"Please stop adding nonsense to Wikispecies. It is considered vandalism. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikispecies. Lycaon 11:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)"

What have I added? It(now) was the first time that I opened wikispecies! 61.8.140.20 10:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Special:DoubleRedirects

Hi there are two self redirects that need to be sorted out manually. Thanks. -- Cat ^chi? 19:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Change username

I'm trying to set up my universal log-on set up, but I'd like to rename this account to the same as my wikipedia one, which is User:Chris Mason. Could you do this for me please? Mason11987 07:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

 Done Lycaon 12:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the name change and the welcome. Chris Mason 12:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Changing username

Hi, I want to change my user name to smihael here, similar as on other wiki projects. Many thanks --Mihael Simonič 12:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

 Done Lycaon 14:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Nymphalidae

Lycaon,

I'm very busy with the nymphalidae and Papilionidae. I see new people who want do something in the lepidoptera. Please let them contact me what they want to do, because I don't want work twice. I work with official information in books and bulletins.

Regards,

PeterR 12:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

SUL

Hello! I'm the owner of the unified login joystick, but at your project I have the account named joystick.pl, because the one named joystick had already been in use when I registered. Therefore I request for renaming the user nick from joystick in order to vacate it, so as to let me change my user name from joystick.pl to joystick and unify my SUL. --Joystick.pl 13:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, according to policy, we have to give 7 days of notice to allow them to agree or disagree with usurp before we can carry out rename process. Since me and you have already done a couple of renames already due to SUL, let's not undo our work. But for future renames, we have to wait. I have created a notice to notify users for future renames. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 14:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. I was not aware of that policy. Thanks for letting me know. Lycaon 14:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

It's ok, I wasn't aware of that policy either 30 mins ago and after I renamed one user without following the policy! OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 14:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

In the case of Joystick, the account has been used for editing, so I guess the notice is not applicable. Lycaon 14:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Alright, i did some more reading. The rule that I mention is for accounts with any edits (>0 edits). If they have no edits, we can proceed right away. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 22:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Nymphalidae

Ik heb weleens geprobeerd contact op te nemen met nieuwkomers, maar zonder resultaat.

Om een betere database te krijgen heb ik een tijd geleden een voorstel ingediend bij OhannaUnited maar tot op heden geen antwoord gekregen.

Het voorstel is:

1. Iedereen krijgt alleen maar een kijkfunktie.

2. Wil men deelnemen aan Wikipedia moet men inloggen

3. Als men ingelogd is kan men kiezen uit categorieën. (Anura, Lepidoptera, Animalia, etc.}

4. Men kan deze categorieën ook nog verdelen in subcategorieën (Anura, snakes, gekko, frogs etc.)

5. Als men een Categorie of subcategorie aanklikt ziet men een persoon (bij frogs bijvoorbeeld Mariusm.).

6. Hij meldt zich dus aan bij Mariusm en deze maakt afspraken met welke groepen die nieuwe aanmelder kan doen en tevens hem begeleiden. Heeft Mariusm geen hulp nodig dan kan hij dit mededelen en hem/haar adviseren om een andere groep te nemen.

Is bovenstaande haalbaar? Het voorkomt veel frustraties en het vernietigen van veelwerk. Ik zie nogal eens dat iemand vraagt om een nummer te blokkeren of dreigt met blokkeren. Ik heb zelf ervaring met SAP waar dit wel mogelijk is.

Door de vele frustaties van de slechte databases in Lepidoptera en Insecta heb ik pas geleden OhannaUnited verteld dat ik om bovenstaande redenen wilde stoppen met Wikipedia. Dit syteem mag niet afhangen van toevalligheden. Als je niet bij Recent changes kijkt (een poosje met vakantie) kan al het geleverde werk voor niets zijn.

Groetjes,

PeterR 15:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: block

IPs should never be blocked indefinitely (see w:Wikipedia:Blocking IP addresses#Block lengths) OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 16:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki change request

MediaWiki talk:Mainpage/yi --Joystick.pl 05:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletions

×Elyhordeum indicates a hybrid. We can choose not to list it that way but I do not see why we could not have the redirect. --Open2universe | Talk 23:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, no problems. Lycaon 08:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Nieuwkomers

Je antwoord mij dat je de nieuwkomers niet kunt verwijzen naar een ander. Ik ben het niet met je eens. Als een nieuwkomer inlogd heten jullie deze personen van harte welkom. Je kunt dan vragen wat ze van plan zijn om in Wikipedia (Wikimedia) te gaan doen. Als ze bijvoorbeeld bezig willen gaan met kikkers, dan kun je hen vragen om contakt op te nemen met Mariusm. Je moet dan wel over een lijst beschikken met mensen welke verantwoordelijk zijn voor een groep of groepen.~Als Mariusm je antwoord dat hij niet akkord gaat met werkzaamheden bij de kikkers kun je deze persoon blokkeren. Op deze manier voorkom je veel vervuiling.

Groetjes,

PeterR 12:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Salticidae

In de history van Salticidae zie ik ook jouw naam staan. Ik mis de subfamilies. Pas jij dit aan of moet dit een ander doen.

Groetjes,

PeterR 12:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Dendrocephalus conosuris

Deze pagina is in het Spaans van Luis Ruiz Berti. Is het de bedoeling dat iedereen in zijn eigen taal ==Navigation== invuld?

Groetjes,

PeterR 15:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Uiteraard niet. Dus aangepast. Dank voor het melden. Lycaon 21:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Cycloneuralia

Have You any good solution for the groups of Cycloneuralia (and other ecdysozoan taxa): I mean that all those groups have no formal ranks, but Wikispecies uses only ranked taxa.
One of the most accepted systems based on cladistics is:

Ecdysozoa

1.Cycloneuralia

1.1. Nematoida
1.1.1. Nematoda 1.1.2. Nematomorpha

1.2. Scalidophora
1.2.1. Priapulida 1.2.2. Kinorhyncha 1.2.3. Loricifera

2. Panarthropoda...

Scalidophoran taxa are considered to be either classes or phyla. I prefer the first variant because of their great similarity (but evidently this similarity is not only synapomorphic).
Nematodes and nematomorphs never considered to be classes and the concept of Nematoida is supported by too small set of undoubt morphological synapomorphies (but molecules support Nematoida), differences in body plans are important. --Andrey A. Kuzmin 22:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it not a bit early to introduce taxonomy which hasn't been established widely? I have (or am busy) to change the top levels at the moment (Ecdysozoa, Bilateria, etc). I feel that we should wait a bit still before altering the taxonomy between Ecdysozoa and phylum levels. Unless of course major changes can be supported by major publications (plural intended). Lycaon 14:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I cannot agree entirely with you. Scalidophoran concept is widely accepted. The alternative concept ("Cephalorhyncha") differs from it only in view on placement of Nematomorpha.

Anyway you are right that we have to decide conservatively.

Leaving scalidophoran taxa as phyla we have to use homonymous classes, e.g. Priapulida as the only classis in the phylum Priapulida etc. I will make the changes...--Andrey A. Kuzmin 18:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Fine. The use of templates makes it not too difficult anyway to make alterations in the future. Thanks. Lycaon 18:52, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

One question. Should we use the word Clade or Taxon for non-ranked levels? Lycaon 18:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

My answer would be "yes" and term "taxon" is prefered. But the consequence would be that we have to treat a taxon as unranked even if it was defined with a rank, because of its unranked sisters. I mean that in our case Scalidophora is unranked, but it is sistertaxon (in the most conservative system) to phyla Nematoda, Nematomorpha and other ecdysozoans. Another case is that taxon Scutocoxifera (in Isopoda) is sister to suborders Asellota and Phreatoicidea, but it contains suborder Oniscidea and taxon "Flabellifera s.lato" (which contains other suborders of isopods). What do you think? My decision (too extreme, I understand) is to use unranked taxa throughout levels where they were introduced in literature.--Andrey A. Kuzmin 19:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

MushiHoshilshi

Ik heb geprobeerd om met MushiHoshilshi in contakt te komen, maar dat lukt niet. Hij bergijpt geen Engels. Zolang hij zich bezig houdt met Japanse namen vind ik dit niet erg. Ik had hem gevraagd of hij een familie voor zijn rekening wilde nemen. Deze had ik klaar gezet voor mensen die werk wilden gaan doen in Wikipedia.

Groetjes,

PeterR 13:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

References

Lycaon,

Waarom maak jij bij ==references== niet * Pereira, G, 1984, ect.? Zie Dendrocephalus venezolanus.

Als je antwoord geeft svp via mijn talk. Toevallig lees ik nu dat je mij hebt geantwoord bij Dendrocephalis conosuris. Ik mopperde al dat ik geen antwoord kreeg.

Groetjes,

PeterR 18:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

does it really matter?

I don't understand the template stuff yet, but if what I contribute looks right, I don't see a problem. I would rather not waste time and just forge ahead...

Warnings

I am clearly not adding nonsense to the pages, so the warnings are not justified!

It's quite a dilemma. The IP is creating useful pages, but removes stuff without any justification for a few times. I really don't want to block a constructive user, but if that user continues to be disruptive and disrespectful to admins, I have to block it for a day or two. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 00:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I remove nothing useful - I thought the whole point of collective editing was that incorrect/misleading and/or redundant information could be edited by anybody (including me!)

PS: Time is short - I'm not being disrespectful to admins, I just haven't the time to be polite!

Removing "other" users talk

It was mine that I removed! I wrote it, so I can remove it...

I'm sorry, but it was not! Lycaon 06:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Well now you're being pedantic! It was a thread that I started ... same diff! Anyway, I think I have got the hang of using templates now, you will no doubt be jumping cartwheels of joy to hear!!! :)

Hemiptera references

I moved the references to the talk page. They are relevant only to the commentary of mine that you deleted from the main page! [User:130.216.201.46 21:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)]

As you put the disputed template (which I don't contest), I think they are relevant under Hemiptera too. Lycaon 21:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think it is redundant to have them twice, but OK ... [User:130.216.201.46 21:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)]

Computer to タチコマ robot

I am standardizing my bot username (User:Computer) globally to User:タチコマ robot. I have pre-registered User:タチコマ robot globally to prevent impersonations so that account needs to be renamed to something else allowing room for my current account. Please rename User:Computer to User:タチコマ robot -- Cat ^chi? 19:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 Done, there is also Wikispecies:Changing username. Maxim_(talk) 20:06, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. A Tachikoma robot ;-)). Lycaon 21:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hyachelia

Kun jij dit herstellen? Ik ben via een lijst aan het opschonen, maar hier weet ik geen weg mee.

Groetjes,

PeterR 08:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Cat

Damn, you beat it to me. I was on that page and about to nuke it. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 14:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

. :-))). Lycaon 14:18, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

And another thing. I replied your mailing list email. Did you read it? I want to test and see if the mailing list filter is working or not. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 14:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Yep I read. Sorry, I had a few days holiday and have a few internet problems at home. Now, back at work, I can help you test. But maybe best starting tomorrow? Lycaon 14:26, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Please rename me

Hi, I have changed my username at my homewiki and want to do it here to. Please rename me to Calandrella. Here is confirmation. Thanks, Leo Johannes 08:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: oppose

So what's a CU? What's bothering you??? Contributions/130.216.1.16 00:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

A CU is a checkuser procedure which can certify the ip address of a user with a user name. Any imposter can make an account and run for admin. If CU proofs Mr. Thorpe is who he says, then I have no problems with the nomination. This is nothing personal but a sound rule which is used on all wikimedia projects. Your contributions (ip 130.216.1.16) are indeed ok. Lycaon 00:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough (by the way, I dont remember telling you my name???) 130.216.1.16 00:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Stho002 00:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Corrections about Anatinae

Je ne comprends pas pourquoi vous avez liquidé les corrections apportées à Anatinae : je n'ai fait que supprimer les genres qui se trouvaient à la fois dans cette sous-famille et une des autres sous-familles des Anatidae. Si vous préférez laisser le bordel, alors ma collaboration se termine là RainbowJos 21:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)...

Corrections are welcome if well referenced. Furthermore, if you change taxonomy, then you have to follow it through on all levels and also change the templates otherwise it breaks the whole taxonavigation. Regards. Lycaon 07:59, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

About a page you deleted

You deleted User:Raina noor. But in fact, this person does exist, see w:User:Raina noor. Raina may not know that we don't have SUL here so she assumed that her account was created the moment she comes here. I'll try confirm whether she made that page or not. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Anatinae (suite et fin)

Bonsoir !

• Je suis allé voir les "références"; il s'agit du Wikipedia français qui comporte les mêmes erreurs que Wikispecies! J'ai fait, il y a quelques jours assez bien de corrections dans le domaine ornithologique mais dans le Wiki anglais. Mes références à moi sont HBW ( volume 1 à 13), la 3e édition de Howard & Moore (avec ses 7 corrections), la 6e édition de Clements (avec ses 2 corrections) et Avibase. Ce n'est peut être pas suffisant pour se risquer à corriger Wikispecies ?
• De plus, je comprends bien qu'il faille corriger certains templates, le template du niveau qui comporte les corrections et le(s) template(s) "inférieur()s" qui en découlent : dans le cas de la correction sur les Anatinae, les templates "genera" et "species", les autres restant inchangés. Et encore, dans ce cas-ci, il suffisait de corriger les templates "genera", puisque je ne faisais que supprimer dans la sous-famille des Anatinae des genres qui étaient repris dans d'autres sous-familles de cette même famille des Anatidae, et que les "fiches" elles-mêmes des espèces concernées par ces genres en double ne mentionnaient que les sous-familles auxquelles je n'ai rien changé et non la sous-famille des Anatinae où j'avais fait des suppressions. Ou alors je n'ai rien compris aux templates... Je ne comprends d'ailleurs toujours pas comment il est possible d'avoir une certaine filiation descendante et une autre remontante différente (cfr sous-famille Tetraoninae avec comme genre Lagopus et genre Lagopus avec sous-famille Phasianinae : il y a quelque chose qui m'échappe !!!)
• Je vous signale également qu'en reprenant la version précédant la mienne, vous avez réintroduit des genres qui ne sont que des synonymes: je n'ai indiqué le cas que pour Asarcornis scutulata synonyme de Cairina scutulata. (A ce sujet, je ne vois pas apparaître ce renseignement, ni rien d'autre, quand je fais une recherche sur Asarcornis). Mais d'autres synomymes existent également : Lophonetta specularioides et Speculanas specularis, synonymes de Anas specularioides et Anas specularis. Je n'ai pas eu le temps de les introduire...
• Je crains d'avoir été un peu long, mais comme c'est probablement la dernière fois que je consacre du temps à Wikispecies, j'espère que vous aurez l'obligeance de me pardonner. RainbowJos 22:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

link title

Tristan Miller 1

Lycaon,

Wat is dit voor een nieuwe gebruiker?

O.a. met rape pages

Bedankt voor de snelle reactie. Ik vind ook dat er de laaste tijd veel mensen zijn die vandalisme plegen en van Wikipedia een sexside willen maken. Af en toe een sexplaatje is nog te verteren maar sides naar pedofelie niet. Ik hoop dat dit tegengehouden kan worden, maar ik denk het niet omdat WIKIPEDIA een open side is. Mocht het te veel voorkomen dan moet ik helaas stoppen met Wikipedia, want ik wil niet inverband worden gebracht met pedofelie sides.

Groetjes,

PeterR 16:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

URGENT: Please wait

I need to consult the beauracrats on this protection issue - please don't unprotect any pages until I get a verdict Stho002 21:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

PLEASE MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO UNTIL ALL BEAURACRATS CAN CONSIDER THE ISSUES HERE AND VOTE Stho002 21:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

URGENT PROBLEM

My continued ability to contribute to Wikispecies depends crucially on being able to protect just one page, called 'New Zealand', which is a faunistic page with links to (unprotected) pages on New Zealand taxa. My "friend" Lycaon keeps unprotecting it! I believe that such faunistic pages are well within the spirit and ideology of Wikispecies, and perhaps a new category ought to be created to accommodate them. However, I need to protect my New Zealand page for the following reasons: (1) in line with the Wikispecies philosophy, I am contributing this information for free, and there are potential conflicts of interest with other people/institutions here in N.Z. who are trying to extract as much funding as possible for similar projects; (2) if the page is open edit, it could very easily deteriorate into chaos, as what is needed is a single consistent view on the fauna. The classification isn't totally "objective", so other people may try to impose their own conflicting opinions and the result could be chaotic. Can the beauracrats please have a vote on this? Regrettably, if I cannot protect this one single page, I will have to leave Wikispecies...
Sincerely,
Stephen Thorpe
Stho002 21:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

NOT PERSONAL RESEARCH

It isn't personal research - it is a compilation of published information, with full references cited on the (unprotected) genus/species pages. It is just that it needs to be consistent in order to be of any possible use to anybody. Stho002 21:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

reply

please wait for a consensus decision
Stho002 21:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

reply

please wait for a consensus decision
Stho002 21:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

reply

please wait for a consensus decision
Stho002 21:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

PS

PS: Other editors can still create their own versions of my 'New Zealand' page, expressing their own opinions, and they can give the pages disambiguated names, e.g. New Zealand, and link them to the appropriate taxa pages independently of me. Hence I am not trying to prevent alternative opinions, I am just trying to prevent alternative opinions from making my page into an unusable mess of conflicting opinions.
Stho002 22:45, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Notice of discussion

Given the recent edit warring over New Zealand, you and Stho002 have both been desysopped. Discussion about this can be found at Wikispecies:Village Pump#Lycaon and Stho002 (130.216.1.16) desysoped. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

One Image or Two

With most butterflies, definitely with small Lycaenids, identification can only be made reliably by seeing both upperside and underside of the species. In most cases, the uppersides exhibit sexual dimorphism. It would seem sensible to show two pictures in this case. If the one image rule is sacrosanct, then it would be good to be able to link to somewhere where more images can be shown. Perhaps you could advise me how to do this. Thanks. Alan