User talk:MILEPRI

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eponym,s and removing of authorship[edit]

Hello MILEPRI, the eponymy is only for the basionym, which was named in honour of some person. Not for all later combinations, as they keep the epitheton just by rule. And PLEASE stop removing the taxa by author-categories of botanical combinations! Thanks, --Thiotrix (talk) 08:59, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Thiotrix:. I don't quite understand what you want to tell me. Could you clarify it for me? First: (the eponymy is only for the basionym) eg: for John Lindley only Lindleyi. If it only works for one name, what is the template used for: Eponyms? I think this template does the same function as the taxa by author template, where all the taxa edited by said author are welcomed. Second: (stop removing the taxa by author-categories of botanical combinations). I have only eliminated the author categories in the redirected pages, since this was agreed by the community, in the accepted taxa what I do is add it. I would be grateful if you could tell me, with an example, where I am wrong to correct it. Saludos.--MILEPRI (talk) 09:24, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
1.Two examples: Gigartina agardhii was named by Setchell & Gardner in honour of Agardh. Later it was combined to another genus as Mastocarpus agardhii. The category of the eponymy should be on the redirect page of the basionym, as this name was coined as an eponym. Another example Schizymenia dubyi: The eponymy is for the basionym Halymenia dubyi, but not for the combinations Iridaea dubyi, Kallymenia dubyi, Euhymenia dubyi, and Schizymenia dubyi.
2. Author categories for zoological taxa are always on the taxon pages, not on the redirects, as was agreed by the community. But for botanical taxa, combinations have their own authors. So Schizymenia dubyi (Chauvin ex Duby) J.Agardh is authored by J.Agardh, while Halymenia dubyi Chauvin ex Duby is authored by Duby. That's why author categories are also on redirect pages for botanical taxa.
3. What is your reference for the eponymy? There are two Agardh researchers, for whom Gigartina agardhii could be named. --Thiotrix (talk) 09:54, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
@Thiotrix:. I do not understand so many difficulties to include an eponym in the list, since most taxa appear without the basonym, which would lead to study the origins of each taxon, in addition to the fact that although the author is changed several times and even becomes a synonym, the name of the taxon does not vary and it is this that is reflected in the list not that of its authors, you should consult the opinion of @Andyboorman:, since I do not have a high level of this language and I do not I can have an in-depth discussion on the subject. Saludos--MILEPRI (talk) 11:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
El término 'basiónimo' se utiliza para indicar qué nombre era el nombre original y válidamente publicado del taxón. Entonces, todos los nombres tienen un basiónimo. Saludos -- Andyboorman (talk) 19:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

No elimine páginas basadas en una sola fuente secundaria.[edit]

See Sutherlandia para su último ejemplo. PWO, COL, Tropicos, etc., no son lo suficientemente definitivos como para realizar cambios importantes utilizando solo uno de ellos. Es diferente si se ha encontrado con un nuevo artículo científico que aclara la incertidumbre. Donde COL y PWO coinciden en una sinonimia genérica que es buena. Cuando no lo hace un individuo, el editor no debe emitir un juicio sobre quién tiene razón. Esto se llama "Investigación original" y está absolutamente prohibido en todos los Wikis. Revise sus ediciones y revierte los casos en los que acaba de confiar en PWO o COL e ignora otras fuentes. ¡Esto es muy importante! Saludos cordiales y feliz año nuevo. Andyboorman (talk) 18:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

your COL template is broken[edit]

I suggest that you fix this by using a bot to make a blanket change to {{Catol-Hassler}}. Cheers Andyboorman (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

@Andyboorman:. ¿Como puedo solicitar a un bot que cambie template:CoL por template:Catol-Hassler? --MILEPRI (talk) 20:44, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Ask an experienced user of AWB such as @RLJ: I am sure he could help and at least let you know what is possible. Cheers. Andyboorman (talk) 11:26, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
I would regard myself as a learning user of AWB. I think it would be favourable to use the citation forms recommended by Catalogue of Life, and to cite, as far as possible, the individual datasets (e.g. WorldFerns, WorldPlants etc.) and not the whole database system. Note that some of these datasets are available also elsewhere, eg. https://www.worldplants.de/world-ferns/ferns-and-lycophytes-list and https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/complete-plant-list and WCSP, without any differences in content. The templates "COL" (concerning the whole catalogue) and "Catol-Hassler" (concerning the individual dataset WorldPlants) differ in their content, although WorldPlants occupies a large part of Tracheophyta treatments in the Catalogue. Maybe the use of "Catol-Hassler" also needs revision. AutoWikiBrowser could be useful, but I am still searching a solution for complex filtering, eg. searching for all Fabaceae articles which contain the template COL. --RLJ (talk) 17:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and experience. Keep me posted. Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 08:52, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Please[edit]

Astragalus and Orophaca edits reverted do not repeat OR, please!!!! Andyboorman (talk) 11:43, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Orophaca is accepted by ILDIS (which has not been updated since 2014), but not accepted by POWO and by Hassler (https://www.worldplants.de/world-plants-complete-list/ and Catalogue of Life). All species with blue links in Orophaca redirect to Astragalus species. I think the redirect to Astragalus is justified. --RLJ (talk) 17:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
It is accepted by Hassler/COL according to this link. Strange and perhaps this link will update soon. I have no problems with the synonymy, just I feel that it is not good practice to base any synonymy on a single source. It is been known for a long time that the mega-genus Astragalus will be getting even larger. Cheers Andyboorman (talk) 18:23, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Ene[edit]

Please do not use Ene as somebody has a AWB bot trawling through correcting it to Jan. Thanks Andyboorman (talk) 13:19, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Category:Leopoldo G. Sancho taxa[edit]

This category is formatted like a taxon authority page. I thought about simply moving it to mainspace, but Leopoldo G. Sancho redirects to Leopoldo García Sancho. Are they the same person? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:32, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

They are the same person according to IPNI. Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 16:12, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4:, OK, It is the same author according to Authority control . --MILEPRI (talk) 16:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Taxa authored 2[edit]

Can you please note that this template is merged into Template:Taxa authored? It is now a mere redirect to Taxa authored and should not be used any longer. Best wishes, --RLJ (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

@RLJ:. Thanks for the info, I had understood that the correct one was authored taxa 2 and was changing them. Greetings.--MILEPRI (talk) 07:16, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

COL[edit]

The link to COL does not work please use Catol-Hassler instead. See Vachellia farnesiana where I have made the corrections. Best regards. Andyboorman (talk) 08:35, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Andyboorman:: Si observa mis ediciones recientes, comprobará que siempre pongo Hassler desde que me advirtió en enero que estaba roto el enlace. Gracias nuevamente.--MILEPRI (talk) 08:59, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
@Andyboorman:: He comprobado que Template:COL tiene miles de páginas con enlace roto (he llegado a contar 3000 y continúa la lista). Sería conveniente que un BOT hiciese las correcciones, ya que hacerlo manualmente ocuparía mucho tiempo. Saludos.--MILEPRI (talk) 09:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Gracias por la información. Colocaré un aviso en la Pump pidiendo a los editores que no utilicen la plantilla. También preguntaré si alguien podría usar un bot para cambiar COL a Catol-Hassler. Atentamente Andyboorman (talk) 10:20, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Vandalismo[edit]

Hola, MILEPRI. Te agradecería que me explicaras a qué se debe esta reversión, en la que restauraste una versión claramente vandálica. Creo que te has confundido. Un cordial saludo. —Hasley (talk) 15:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hasley:. Recibí notificación de que la página había sido revertida y observé que ya había sido deshecha la edición por Vd. pero habían quedado una gran cantidad de emoticonos que es lo que he querido eliminar. Gracias por su ayuda. Saludos. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MILEPRI (talkcontribs) 15:54, 20 May 2021 (UTC).
Vale, en todo caso quiero notificarte que ya los he retirado. Un saludo. —Hasley (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Check links[edit]

Hi. You seem to be making an error on a lot of your PWO links. Sophora toromiro See here. All the best Andyboorman (talk) 07:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@Andyboorman:. I cannot find the anomaly that it indicates, since POWO binds correctly and the data that appears (that already was) see that it is correct. Could you clarify the error for me? Greetings.--MILEPRI (talk) 07:55, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
You have used ! instead of | between June and 4. I have spotted this error a few times. Perhaps you are using a macro to make the links? Andyboorman (talk) 08:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Andyboorman:. OK entre jun y 4 había puesto ! en lugar de |, eso ha sido esta mañana al cambiar la fecha. Gracias por su ayuda. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MILEPRI (talkcontribs) 08:09, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Reverting legitimate reverts[edit]

Hello MILEPRI. Why did you make this revert of an already legitimate reversion of vandalism? –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 09:15, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

@Tommy Kronkvist:: Este tema ya fue resuelto, adjunto copia del tema:

""Hola, MILEPRI. Te agradecería que me explicaras a qué se debe esta reversión, en la que restauraste una versión claramente vandálica. Creo que te has confundido. Un cordial saludo. —Hasley (talk) 15:41, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hasley:. Recibí notificación de que la página había sido revertida y observé que ya había sido deshecha la edición por Vd. pero habían quedado una gran cantidad de emoticonos que es lo que he querido eliminar. Gracias por su ayuda. Saludos. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MILEPRI (talkcontribs) 15:54, 20 May 2021 (UTC).
Vale, en todo caso quiero notificarte que ya los he retirado. Un saludo. —Hasley (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2021 (UTC)""

Saludos.--MILEPRI (talk) 09:29, 4 June 2021 (UTC)