User talk:Anonyme973

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Didymopanax

I have adjusted your well meaning edits on Schefflera by editing Didymopanax using the data you posted on Schefflera, thanks for the updates. If you wish to carry on improving these taxon pages please have a look through our Help Sections as we do not closely follow Wikipedia praxis! Best regards Andyboorman (talk) 08:34, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Synonyms

Hello. You seem to be making taxon pages for synonyms according to the citations on the pages. For example, Chionanthus. Can you check through your other edits. Regards Andyboorman (talk) 06:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Andyboorman: Hello. I effectively created Mayepea, that is for the moment a synonym of Chionanthus, but it was suggested in a publication (Hong-Wa & Besnard 2013) that the type species, C. Virginicus L. 1753 of the United States, is strongly phylogenetically isolated. Then the neotropical species of the genus Chionanthus should be separated into the genus Mayepea Aubl. 1775 and Linociera Sw. Ex Schreb. 1791. Anonyme973 (talk) 18:14, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Anonyme973: I have read the paper and nearly twenty years on, it now appears that their arguments are not sufficient to convince other botanists who prefer Chionanthus s.l.. On WS we are not permitted to indulge in original research (OR) and creating your two segregates against prevailing strongly held consensus would constitute OR. If you wish to pursue this then you will need to write a paper for publication in a peer reviewed journal. I appreciate your edits were made in good faith, but they are counter to Wiki policy and had to be reverted. I do hope you have not done or planning to undertake similar edits. Regards Andyboorman (talk) 20:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

That is true the resurrection of the old Mayepea name is not ready yet, but those research and publications can need very (too) long time...

If possible, don't totally delete my first page proposal (especially bibliographical references). Il could be usefull next time. Anonyme973 (talk) 04:54, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

I have kept the page because of the references mainly. Sometimes phylogeny can be overtaken by other considerations, in this case it seems the type is a problem and not other species. Maybe the specialists will re-examine the whole clade, but they probably consider it a minor problem for a minor genus. All the best. Andyboorman (talk) 09:54, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Reference Templates

Hello. You are using templates in the Reference Section incorrectly and this can produce nonsense. See Amanoa guianensis were I have made the required edits. Please correct your other taxon pages as a matter of urgency. I suggest that you look at the Help Section. Hope this helps. Andyboorman (talk) 10:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Wrong date format

Hi. Please note that for example this edit doesn't comply with the date format described in the Template:IPNI and Template:TROPICOS template help files. The format of the date parameters of those templates has nothing to do with any Wikispecies standard, instead they comply with the preferred formats stipulated by the International Plant Names Index and Tropicos, respectively. See How to cite us at IPNI and the page footer of any Tropicos taxon page for details.

Also, in some cases your recent edits not only sidestep the stipulated date format, but also removes the specific day of a month from the citation, leaving only month and year (eg. "Accessed Mar. 2022" instead of "Accessed March 02, 2022" as in another of your edits).
–Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 20:06, 27 April 2022 (UTC).

Sorry, I tried to correct my previous work followining the previous recommandation message. I am not very familiar with Wikispecies standard, so that I usually use other old pages as model, but it seems I didn't choose the good ones. Then I'll try to do better next time. Anonyme973 (talk) 04:46, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts. Mind you, there are several reasons why some of the "old" pages aren't perfect. For example some templates and modules may have been changed to reflect changes/updates in the WikiMedia server software, and sometime it takes time for us update all of Wikispecies' taxon pages accordingly. However the documentation on the actual template pages are almost always up to date, so it may be better for you to check them (for example the Template:IPNI and Template:TROPICOS pages mentioned above) instead of using old taxon pages as examples.

–Regards, Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 16:37, 28 April 2022 (UTC).

Could you give good examples to use as a model for the next time ?

Is there a model for links to INPN and GBIF database ? (I remember I sometimes had problems with them) Anonyme973 (talk) 02:27, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

For a start it is IPNI not INPN. Chionanthus does not have GBIF, but others. If you open the templates then they contain advice regarding correct layout. Andyboorman (talk) 06:33, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

I actually mean INPN : https://inpn.mnhn.fr/accueil/recherche-de-donnees/especes/?lg=en Anonyme973 (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

There is no template for this source, as they has not been a call for it. Feel free to write it yourself. Andyboorman (talk) 16:30, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

(I meant species examples that are quite complete and well writed) Anonyme973 (talk) 16:16, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

I do not generally use GBIF as a source so can not really help you. Andyboorman (talk) 16:32, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

For GBIF it tells you this format GBIF|optional: TaxonID|year|month|day for the date. Andyboorman (talk) 06:38, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Just as Andyboorman I don't use GBIF either, but you can check Template:GBIF for syntax- and copy-and-paste examples. The copy-and-paste examples can be copied and entered just as they are shown on the GBIF template's page, without any need to manually edit the dates etc. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 17:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC).