Talk:Repositories

Trimming

Anybody else thinks the full adresses are unnecessary? I think city, state (where relevant), country should be enough...? I actually leave out the country/city if they are explicitly mentioned in the name of the institution. Circeus (talk) 05:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I've made an effort at regularizing entries (up to N so far). I've tried to cross-reference duplicate abbreviation, usually to the most unambiguous, and make notes of differing zoological and botanical (Index Herbariorum) usage. Circeus (talk) 22:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Unless an abbreviation is clearly referring to a collection or department, I'm listing only the institution (E.G. OSUS is only "Oklahoma State University, Stillwater", not specifically a zoological or entomological collection: that will vary depending on the organism concerned anyway). Circeus (talk) 04:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Misnamed page?

Don't you think this pages is misnamed as Holotype? Shouldn't it be List of Harbaria?--Meneguzzo (talk) 16:43, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, Repositories obviously, given not all of them are herbaria. But I'm a little unsure of when one should link to this page, and when one should create a special page for the holotype to ink to. The help for the Name section gives both as examples without explaining the difference, Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Back before I moved it, it was named "Holotype". Eventually and hopefully it will mostly serve to record the recommended and used acronyms. Circeus (talk) 20:25, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata

I've started to add a column (letter "A" only, so far) for the equivalent Wikidata item. Some of these are for parent institutions. We may wish to consider creating Wikidata items for the more specific division or department. Please join me in populating the column. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Suspicious redirects: syntype, holotype and others?

@Andyboorman: user:Mariusm is redirected eg "holotype", "syntype" under "repositories". Isn't it user-unfriendly? Logical should be redirection to the glossary, like it originally was--Estopedist1 (talk) 12:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: I have asked the question and reverted the edits. A change like this needs a Pump discussion as well. Andyboorman (talk) 14:18, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

IIRC, "holotype" did once redirect to this page, but it's been agreed (as far as I know, anyway) for quite a while pages should link/redirect to the appropriate repository page (and not this list). Circeus (talk) 00:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

[ETA for clarity for later readers] And they should link with the acronym. Circeus (talk) 12:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

That is what I assumed as well, so I guess a well meaning mistake. Andyboorman (talk) 07:23, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

@Circeus and Andyboorman: so you suggest that instead of

* {{int:Holotype}}: [[Holotype#U|USNM]] 199058. 
* Paratypes: [[Paratype#U|USNM]]

we have

* {{int:Holotype}}: [[USNM]] 199058. 
* Paratypes: [[USNM]]

--Estopedist1 (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes. If a definition is required a redirect can be placed on ⧼Holotype⧽ although we get a strange format using int. Andyboorman (talk) 16:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Pretty much. I suspect some abbreviation still redirect to Holotype and may need to be sorted out. Circeus (talk) 17:56, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

@Andyboorman and Circeus: not "some", but we have thousands and thousands of links like "[[Holotype#M|MBUCV]]". I also agree with Andy, that using "int-structure" seems strange there and is maybe redundant at all. It is possible that in order to keep WS articles cleaner, then if we are dealing with international words (like holotype, references, synonyms), we don't use "int-structure". But this big and maybe breakthrough-like topic belongs to Village Pump--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:19, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@Circeus: and @Estopedist1: Can a bot be created to change "[[Holotype#M|MBUCV]]" to "[[MBUCV]]" by removal of the Holotype#M for example? That would require just 24 passes. Andyboorman (talk) 08:11, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

seems easy task for bots. Our bot specialists should be user:Rosičák and user:Mariusm. But before any actions, notices are needed in Village Pump to avoid creating these invalid links in future--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:05, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

We did discuss this, but I do not remember when. I will add this topic for discussion on the Pump. Andyboorman (talk) 10:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)