User talk:Omotecho

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Hello, @Pigsonthewing:, so happy you granted me autopatroller right, and let me introduce myself. I am a retired translation coordinator for science themed publications for general readers, worked at an editing house for Japanese publishers who sell translated titles by British and US publishers. I subscribe to translators mailing list, and I am on Wikimedia among others. If by any chance you remember somebody who might mentor me to English-Japanese (or visa versa) translation here on WS, that would be wonderful, as I wish to stay on safe side with experts proofreading what I input on WS. Best, --Omotecho (talk) 13:07, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Omotecho, Thanks or all your good work. I regret that we have few Japanese speakers here on Wikispecies; and I know very few Japanese people in the wider Wikimedia movement. You might meet a few of the latter at d:Wikidata:井戸端. Given yor backgound, you may also be interested in meta:WikiCite. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:42, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you always for your crisp reply, and I accessed both pages you told me, which I needed to close for later (Wikicite esp). For the time being, my idea is to fill some more how-to and general WS-basics pages before the 2018 academic calendar starts in early April in Japan. Hopefully that would invite college students/acedemics from Japan to WS who should benefit tremendously by reading/writing in those themes, preparing to venture and exchange dialog with international scholars and experts like you.
Anyway, thank you for the advice on Wikicite and d:Village Pump in ja, and please let me know if there were higher priority WS issues to put into ja. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 17:27, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
One way to help is to add CiNii identifiers (P271, P4787) to items about authors in Wikidata; these identifiers will then show on Wikispecies, through the {{Authority control}} template. It is often not possible for those of us who do not speak Japanese to disambiguate authors with similar names. Adding the Japanese script for transliterated names of Japanese people (here and on Wikidata) is also helpful. I've also left a query that may be of interest, on our Wikidata talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello, @Pigsonthewing:, could you give me idea if adding P1476 or doi/oclc to person is not correct; a Japanese user advises me (sorry, in Japanese language) I am doing wrong by;
  1. adding P1476 to a person data is not acceptable;
  2. adding doi should be to paper/publication page, but not to a person;
  3. each paper/publication should have its own Q number;
  4. then after a paper has its own page on WD, it needs to be linked to the relevant person with P800;
while the same user tells me such data handling to link a paper with a person with P800 is not often seen.
I tried to understand what the big picture is, though, not quite successful to understand why adding doi/oclc is not acceptable on person pages. Could you point me where I will read the practice to follow? I am very willing to learn a new world. And at least, some ja user found another ja user on Wikidata. :) Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 12:15, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Our colleague is correct; you should not add P1476 to items about people; each paper/publication should have its own Q number; the author can be added to that item using P50 (or using P2093 if there is no item for the author, or if the name is ambiguous). See, for example, Q50358052 See also d:Wikidata:WikiProject Source MetaData and meta:WikiCite. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for advice, and I read links you pointed me to, and watched wikicite video. The last thing I had wanted to do was to bother data this way. I wonder how to correct those P1476 myself, but I'd better take time now. Wish I could make up for those errors, so sorry messing up. Cheers, --Omotecho (talk) 15:30, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
No problem; we're all learning. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:35, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

CiNii ids to add on Wikidata for biologists[edit]

I find this Reasonator tool quite handy to do simple filtering on Wikidata. They will improve it for the 2017 Community Wishlist tasks, great to know.Omotecho (talk) 14:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Interlanguage links[edit]

like in this paragraph, I wish to change links to /ja page whenever they are ready. Is it best to rewrite the link as from Complete list of Wikimedia projects to:
(A) its ja language page ウィキメディアのプロジェクト群? Or (B) is there better way to show those interlang links to our readers?

Could you give any insights, please, @Pigsonthewing:? --Omotecho (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC) Omotecho (talk) 17:54, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

(A) is certainly acceptable; I don't know whether or not there is a a better way, sorry. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, then I will apply that format. Thank you for your advice. Regards, --Omotecho (talk) 20:53, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate procedure[edit]

Crosspost as in [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Q21392731&oldid=672543825 wikidata talk page for Harutaka Hatanaka].

This person must be the same person with Harutaka Hata 畑 晴陵 (Hata, Harutaka).
Reason:
  • The suggested paper on doi shows his name as Hata, Harutaka.
  • Duplicate in Species: [[Harutaka Hata]] is the correct name. [[Harutaka Hatanaka]] needs to integrate with the former. --Omotecho (talk) 12:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done [[Harutaka Hatanaka]] needs to be merged into correct name [[Harutaka Hata]]; otherwise, Harutaka Hatanaka (Q21392731) on wikidata can't be merged into Harutaka Hata (Q21389345), which is the correct name of this person. ----Omotecho (talk) 13:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

  1. move Template:Hatanaka & Motomura, 2015 to Template:Hata & Motomura, 2015
  2. update any pages that were using Template:Hatanaka & Motomura, 2015
  3. update every Wikispecies page that currently links to Harutaka Hatanaka, so that they instead link to Harutaka Hata
  4. redirect Harutaka Hatanaka to Harutaka Hata
  5. if true, add a note to Harutaka Hata, to say that the name "Harutaka Hatanaka" is used in some places
  6. on Wikidata, remove the link to Harutaka Hatanaka from d:Q21392731
  7. on Wikidata, merge d:Q21392731 into d:Q21389345
  8. on Wikidata, clean up [[d:Q21389345]] if required

--Omotecho (talk) 07:51, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

A Japanese or not[edit]

I am checking wikidata, and doubt if those can be called a Japanese.

entomologist 1[edit]

While this person has the contact street address provided, according to the provided source on Zootaxa 4291 (1), 2017 (4.19 MB if you download), this person was affiliated with:

@Neferkheperre:, who created her page here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Need to correct person name[edit]

Daichi Kato is Hirosato Kato[edit]

@Pigsonthewing: a Japanese scholar Daichi Kato is actually Hirotomo Kato, per my research (see below). Unfortunately, I have found his name has often been misrepresented as Daichi even on papers he co-authored.

  1. How can I treat a case like this? Do I create a new page for Hirotomo Kato, then move Daichi Kato to that?
  2. What happens with d:Q26705627?
  3. Could we call him an entomologist? According to Dr.Kato's profile at his lab, he is a member of Japan Society of Medical Entomology and Zoology, Japanese Society of Tropical Medicine, Japanese Society of Parasitology, the Japanese Society of Veterinary Science, and the Japanese Society of Veterinary Parasitologists.

Sources are:

I don't doubt you, but which source links the two names together? And which name is used most often? Assuming that that is "Hirotomo", move the Wikispecies page, and add a note about the two names. Rename the Wikidata item, but keep the old name as an alias. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
I suppose Japan Science and Technology Agency does best showing both Daichi and Hirotomo. I admit the trick is that you need to input search term in Nihongo to hit both names, then refine search with “Researchers” which narrows down to Hirotomo Kato.
Data-wise, as I mentioned above, Daichi Kato hits more on OCLC and CiNii, even if you combine Nihongo and romanized names. We might look as if we were making mistake by providing correct name, because Daichi hits more results on those database but Hirotomo. As I do not acquaint with him nor not a hundred per cent sure, shall I confirm with Dr.Hirotomo Kato via e-mail? ----Omotecho (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
It may be useful to contact the gentleman concerned - especially if you can ask him to use both names on his web profile, or to get an ORCID iD and use them there. The jglobal.jst.go.jp page times out for me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Correcting affiliation for Hirotomo Kato[edit]

A memo on Hirotomo Kato. In short, on WikiSpecies however the paper on the original data suggests this person is an entomologist, when I checked his affiliation or Kyushu University website, there is a person Daiki Kato but not an entomologist. (The paper title did not hit on that website). Below, I tried to track my web search to explain the issue.

  1. Is it safe to correct the person's affiliation to a medical school on WS anyway? Or the present info pointing to Kyushu University does not match with the person/paper presented. (Wow, another lesson for me to learn.)
  2. How to keep a note?

So far, I have: On WikiData renamed as Hirotomo Kato also called Daichi Kato, and added data for occupation, affiliation and education. No, I have not made a contact with Prof.Hirotomo Kato, as I need to sort out the issue. On WikiSpecies, added papers, 21 May 2018.

I checked Daichi Kato and Kyushu University, but Daichi Kato did not hit.

  • Daiki Kato (加藤大貴 (Kato Daiki)) was found at Prof. Yasuyuki Ohkawa's lab, Research Center for Transomics Medicine, Medical Institute of Bio-regulation. [1]
  • For your info, Daiki Kato (加藤大貴 (Kato Daiki)) is/was affiliated with Waseda University Graduate School or 早稲田大学大学院先進理工学研究科 電気・情報生命専攻構造生物学研究室 (Department of Electrical Engineering and Bioscience, Waseda Research Institute for Science and Engineering). Keywords 加藤大貴 (Kato Daiki), the paper title found on Prof. Ohkawa's lab.[1] ----Omotecho (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

References[edit]

  1. 1.0 1.1 Crystal structure of the overlapping dinucleosome composed of hexasome and octasome. Science, 356(6334): 205-208. April 14, 2017. doi:10.1126/science.aak9867.