Talk:Gage

there was the herpetologist Ceri Gage. This person is related to Odontobatrachus smithi, but mentioned as et al. This taxon has 17 authors (see Wikidata:Q20735757). I suggest that only 3 first authors should have its own article in WS --Estopedist1 (talk) 07:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: Where is it mentioned as et al.? What is the reasoning for having only 3 first authors? See for example fr:Odontobatrachus smithi and this ZooBank nomenclatural act where all authors are mentioned. Korg (talk) 10:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Korg: as taxonomy gets more and more complex, we will have many so-called et-al-taxons. If eg 30 authors, then probably rational is to do individual article only for the first authority, definitelty not for 30 authors. Anyway, it is Village Pump topic--Estopedist1 (talk) 16:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: I think I see your point, but I view things differently. As long as an author coauthored a taxon name, I think they should have a page on WS. The Village Pump topic seems to discuss a somewhat different issue, where the author of a publication is not the author of a taxon name. Is Ceri Gage the coauthor of the name Odontobatrachus smithi? Korg (talk) 17:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Korg: I meant that the new Village Pump topic should be done, but we are not in hurry. To the question: eg enwiki gives Odontobatrachus smithi Barej et al., 2015. I don't know the answer, but I try to see big (future) picture/solution--Estopedist1 (talk) 20:03, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: Yes, maybe a new discussion should take place. For the taxon name in question, please see the original publication: "Odontobatrachus smithi Barej, Schmitz, Penner, Doumbia, Sandberger-Loua, Hirschfeld, Brede, Emmrich, Kouamé, Hillers, Gonwouo, Nopper, Adeba, Bangoura, Gage, Anderson & Rödel, sp. n." (Nomenclatural act). What should we do with this information? Should it be somewhere in WS? If we cannot tell somewhere that Gage (Ceri) is a taxon authority, then what is the purpose of disambiguation pages, Category:Taxon authorities and Category:Taxa by author?

Please note that "et al." can be used in the name section: "If there are more than 4 authors it is acceptable here to use the abbreviation "et al." (...)". And some years ago it was decided to list all authors in the reference section: "All authors should be listed. Don't use et al.". But we could find an alternative solution when there are many authors. Korg (talk) 22:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Invalid link Ed V. Gage?

@Estopedist1: In this edit, why did you write "invalid link"? Korg (talk) 12:41, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

@Korg: my bad, Ed is actually full name not abbreviation. Accidentally thought that invalid link like "Yu A. Andropova" instead of "Yulia A. Andropova" or "Y.A. Andropova" --Estopedist1 (talk) 12:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: No problem! Actually Ed may be short for Edward, I'll try to find some proof. Korg (talk) 13:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)