Talk:Sorberacea

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Taxon divided into several other groups[edit]

According to WoRMS Sorberacea is a class (rather than an order, as now stated in the Wikispecies page) of taxa divided into several other groups. See WoRMS taxon details: Sorberacea .Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 19:38, 2 July 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]

The original publication titles Les Sorberacea: une nouvelle classe de Tuniciers (traduction: Sorberacea: a new class of Tunicates) but i did not find an online version. However, i found many refs for Sorberacea classis but no one for Sorberacea Ordo. Moreover, Aspiraculata is an ordo of Sorberacea classis (WoRMS). And the last but not the least: i could not find anything about Sorberidae familia. According to Moniot C. & Moniot F. Hexacrobylidae is a familia of Sorberacea classis, but for WoRMS Hexacrobylidae is a familia of Sorberacea classis (IMO due to revision).
@Tommy Kronkvist: is there some template or rule for unaccepted taxa / Obsolete taxa on Wikispecies? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Erànàë (talkcontribs) 21:03, 2 July 2017.
@Erànàë: We don't have any policy or guideline regarding this per se, but we tend to add the {{Invalid}} template to the "Name" section, followed by data about the currently legitimate taxon. See Pectinivalvinae for an example. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 08:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]
@Erànàë: Please also note that for synonyms, we add the {{Synonym}} template to the top of the page. See Astigmella dissona for an example. –Tommy Kronkvist (talk)‚ 13:37, 4 July 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]
@Tommy Kronkvist:, I will modify the classification and remove the banner tonight, cause there is no evidence for ordo ans multiple ref for classis. Plus, I will remove Sorberidae for the same reason. ~~ Erànàë [Talk] [Anti-flow] ~~ 14:04, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
OK. Tommy Kronkvist (talk), 14:09, 4 July 2017 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Sorberidae probably don't exist, the family used to englobe this three genera Gasterascidia, Hexadactylus [=Hexacrobylus] and Sorbera is "Hexacrobylidae" Seeliger, 1906. Worms don't recognize these genera, treating them as synonyms of Oligotrema, now placed in Molgulidae family. See Worms entries for each taxon cited. See Tatián et al. Molecular phylogeny endorses the relationship between carnivorous and filter-feeding tunicates (Tunicata, Ascidiacea) "reinforces the inclusion of the species, traditionally considered as Sorberacea⁄Hexacrobylidae, in Ascidiacea, within the Order Stolidobranchia, Family Molgulidae. According to Kott(1989), the Family Hexacrobylidae, which included two genera Oligotrema and Asajirus, shows characters in common with Molgulidae" [p. 610], and given a taxonomic history about Sorberacea (a taxon named by Monniot et al., 1975, revised by Monniot & Monniot (1990) [Monniot, C. & Monniot, F. (1990). Revision of the Class Sorberacea (benthic tunicates) with descriptions of seven new species. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society of London 99: 239–290], used by some researcher as distict group, but not followed by others that considered the characteristics not diagnosable and subsume in Ascidiacea. For the synonymization of Gasterascidia, Hexadactylus [=Hexacrobylus] and Sorbera within Oligotrema see Kott, P. (1989). The family Hexacrobylidae Seeliger, 1906 (Ascidiacea, Tunicata). Memoirs of the Queensland Museum, 27: 517–534. Regards Burmeister (talk) 14:25, 4 July 2017 (UTC) [PS, if you want a copy of Tatián paper, send me a email.]Reply[reply]