Talk:Scilloideae

Asparagaceae s.l. subfam. Scilloideae (sensu APGIII) is currently undergoing major re-circumscription see Knirsch et al., (2015), Manning et al., (2004), Manning et al., (2009), Martínez-Azorín et al., (2014) and Martínez-Azorín et al., (2015) as examples, often as Hyacinthaceae. Therefore, this taxon page may undergo changes, if these have been accepted by the wider community. However, these changes may not necessarily be forthcoming as, for example, the proposal to replace Ornithogalum by 11 genera is treated by Stevens et al., 2015 with some scepticism and is not accepted by Govaerts et al., 2015 on the genus taxon page. Andyboorman (talk) 19:48, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

There are now two different approaches to generic circumscription within this subfamily, although there is broad agreement at the level of tribe and subtribe. Mannning et al. prefer a broader circumscription for the major genera, whereas Martínez-Azorín et al. are intent on generating numerous small segregates - see References Sections. Electronic secondary sources such as; African Plant Database, Australian Plant Census, Euro+Med and WCSP are mixed in their approaches. Print flora are several years out of date. Stevens on APW favours broad generic treatments for now pointing out several issues including sampling and taxonomic stability. Interestingly, these dramatically different approaches are based upon the same molecular and morphological evidence. Until consensus has been reached it is probably best if WS should be conservative similar to the rapid updating source WCSP. Meanwhile I will endeavour to keep loading the Reference Sections with scientific papers so that those interested have a useful source of key work. Andyboorman (talk) 20:14, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Two additional and recent contrasting resources added over are; Manning (2019a) and Martinez-Azorin et al. (2019). They both summarise the contrasting approaches and note the continuing lack of overall consensus. WS still largely follows WCSP(2022), Stevens (2022) and Manning et al. (2019) in not accepting the numerous segregates proposed by Martinez-Azorin et al.. Andyboorman (talk) 19:27, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow editors,

I have just modified 1 external links on Scilloideae. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060809161323/http://www.f-lohmueller.de/botany/fam/h/Hyacinthaceae.htm to http://www.f-lohmueller.de/botany/fam/h/Hyacinthaceae.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)