Talk:Homo sapiens

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Made an error, accidentally replaced the == Vernacular names == part and erased everything because i thought that the bottom part with more names will be visible but for some reason it's not ?

Where's english version for this really![edit]

en:Human. Ucucha (talk) 04:36, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

We couldn't find a picture to illustrate this one?

Why is the picture a drawing instead of a photograph?

The drawing is the depiction of humans that was used on the Pioneer 11 plaque.

The section with the more detailed taxonavigation[edit]

  • I just added a more detailed taxonavigation tree with more entities in between (Bilateria, Craniata, Eutheria, Euarchontoglires, Euarchonta and Hominini) to the page. The advantage of this new more detailed taxonavigation tree is that it provides more information and it is open (in contrast to the taxonavigation above) for adding additional entities if there is more knowledge. -- Citylover 16:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Furthermore, I also tried to figure out the (mainly phylogenetic?) entitites between Vertebrata and Mammalia: phylogenetic: Gnathostomata, Osteichthyes, Sarcopterygii, Tetrapoda, Amniota, Synapsida, Therapsida, Cynodontia. Would it be possible to fully integrate them into the list or are they phylogenetic only? -- Citylover 16:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

More detailed taxonavigation[edit]

Terrestrial life:

There are several mammal classifications[edit]

I have just discovered the article w:Mammal classification on Wikipedia. In this article, it becomes obvious that there are several ways of classifying the "taxonomical area" above Primates (and all or at least most of them seem to be modern and up-to-date!): -- Citylover 14:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

  • The so called "Molecular classification of mammals" (which category would be at the top of this class?):
    • Infraclass Eutheria
      • Group I: Afrotheria
      • Group II: Xenarthra (but not the order Xenarthra!)
        • Clade Boreoeutheria
          • Group III: Euarchontoglires
            • Superorder Euarchonta
              • Order Primates -- Citylover 14:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • The so called "Standardized textbook classification" (which category would be at the top of this class?):
    • Subclass Prototheria
    • Subclass Theria
      • Infraclass Eutheria
        • Order Xenarthra
        • Order Insectivora
        • Order Scandentia
        • Order Dermoptera
        • Order Chiroptera
        • Order Primates -- Citylover 14:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • The so called "McKenna/Bell classification" (which category would be at the top of this class?):
    • Subclass Prototheria
    • Subclass Theriiformes
      • Infraclass Holotheria
        • Superlegion Trechnotheria
          • Legion Cladotheria
            • Sublegion Zatheria
              • Infralegion Tribosphenida
                • Supercohort Theria
                  • Cohort Placentalia
                    • Magnorder Epitheria
                      • Superorder Preptotheria
                        • Grandorder Archonta
                          • Order Primates -- Citylover 14:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • The so called "Mammal Taxonomy" (see also (which category would be at the top of this class?):
    • Class Mammalia
      • Subclass Theriiformes
        • Infraclass Eutheria
          • Supercohort Boreoeutheria
            • Cohort Euarchontoglires
              • Subcohort Euarchonta
                • Order Primates
  • The so called "Classification system used in related articles" (which category would be at the top of this class?):
    • Subclass Placentalia
      • Superorder Archonta
        • Order Primates -- Citylover 14:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)



H.s.idaltu and H.s.sapiens are not subspecies of Homo sapiens :

  • H.s.idalut : is only a name for the skull considered as the elder (this is the meaning of idaltu) of Homo sapiens (before the dating of skulls Omo 1 and Omo 2)
  • H.s.sapiens : was employed when the Man of Neanderthal was considered as a subspecies of Homo sapiens and known as Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. But, since 2003, the Man of Neanderthalensis is considered as a specific specis, distinct of Homo sapiens. So, before 2003 we were member of Homo sapiens sapiens, and since 2003 we are "only" Homo sapiens.

Alceste 15:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


  • New Zealand (adventive)


Associated organisms[edit]


inter-wiki links?[edit]

As an occasional visitor I wonder if it would be useful? e.g. to w:Homo sapiens and for other pages similarly (e.g. w:Leopard, w:Giraffe, ... - KTucker (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

This page[edit]

This talk page has been repeatedly redacted and revised, with no archiving. that makes the history of comments here much less accessible. I may revive all the prior edits, and then archive some of them. please dont overwrite any contents here. trivial comments may be removed, as with all talk pages. (mercurywoodrose) 03:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


Hi, I am new to Wikispecies. I see the current sample image is a painting. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use a photograph of a human, like with all other animals on here? ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

I am active more globally, so a ping would be appreciated if you reply. Thanks, ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 19:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Agreed. This actually runs counter to our image guideline, which states that we should have photographs and not illustrations. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: I had worked out that it may be the case judging that photographs are used for all other species (where it is possible). Perhaps we can propose an image. We could just copy Wikipedia although there are a lot of images of humans on commons. ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
@ImprovedWikiImprovment: I suggest discussing this at Wikispecies:Village Pump. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Okay; have done. Thanks, ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 16:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)