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Mariusm,

I know this, but nobody update insecta. I'm updating now the Insecta with templates, Authors etc. and every day I,m looking for new species or Genera for updating Insecta in Zootaxa. I like to work with a reliable database.

Regards,

PeterR 11:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

How can I create the Author Gerardo Lamas? If I type Gerardo Lamas I get allways Gerardo Lamas Müller. I need only Gerardo Lamas.

Regards,

PeterR 18:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

Herewith I send you information about new frogs.

[1] and [2]

Regards,

PeterR 09:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

I have troubles with the templates. How describe I Infraorder in the templates of Wikimedia? I have Superordo, Ordo, Subordines and Infraordo. See Lohmanniidae in ITIS.

I hope you can help me

PeterR 13:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

I have tried it all, but no success. In the origenal templates was Oribatida ordo and Mixonomota subordo. If I looked too the origanal templates I could not find Infraordo. If you want help me to make this templates your are very welcome. I'm busy with the new Lepidoptera from the Florida Entomologist 2008 but I do allso the other insects. I look everytime in Recent Changes of their are other people who do Insecta but I see nobody except Issfisk. But Issfisk does not do his work well. For instance he don't want make the Authors as [[ ]]. I have allso ask him to do Zootaxa Insecta but no response.

Regards,

PeterR 07:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

Thanks for your help. You have wright about Acari. It is Acta Zoologica Hungariae 2008 where I found this and not Florida Entomologist.

Regards,

PeterR 08:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

I see your very busy with Pristimantis. If I look in Recent Changes I see about 5 persons who are very busy in Wikipedia. I don't know if I allready send you this information of a new species. http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2008/f/z01674p057f.pdf

Regards,

PeterR 08:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

Please can you look too Pericapritermes? It is made by Issfisk. I have ask him a few times to work with genus: Pericapritermes and species: Pericapritermes papuanus but no response. Maybe he listen better to you. Because I have listen to you too.

Regards,

PeterR 07:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

Maybe we think different about filling databases. I have allways worked with hierarchy in doing things in databases. I have ask OhannaUnited to block everybody who want enter Wikipedia without login. If they login than they have to go to the objects they want do. For example Acari. Then they see persons who can help them. One of them support the new person. Now you create no mud or you can't destroy the databases. Now I can everytime make templates or Authors or other things. That is very fustrated. Isfisk does this work allready two years. Why should I or an other have patience with him? When I started with this work I get the first my talk after three days. Because I have worked with hierarchy I except the proposals. I consider you as my companion. If I have questions I ask you. Why can't do Isfisk this or an other?

Regards,

PeterR 13:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to authors names[edit]

I can understand that linking to the authors name can be informative, but only if there's information on the authors site. Linking to Bourguignon and all the page contains is his name (which can be found in the reference to Pericapritermes papuanus ). I just don't see the value in it other than to boost the page count. I would be happy to creat author pages but I don't know nothing about them.

Plus, just linking to every surname without checking if the surname links to another taxonomist with the same surname is definitely not informative. I just checked one of you latest additions Pristimantis thymalopsoides (Lynch, 1976). But the Lynch link refers to two persons that died in 1924 and 1935 respectively. So I don't think any of those described a new species in 1976.

Isfisk 14:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answer 16 May 2008.[edit]

OK. I understand now that we don't have to make Taxon Authorities. If I make a new species I look now everytime if I have link the Author wright (Is it the same person) But if the WIKIPEDIA board decided that we don't link the Authors it is OK for me. But it is not only the authors. I miss in his work allso the Type locality and the Holotype. Same reason? Who works make mistakes only persons who don't work make no mistakes. That the link to Lynch is not wright means not that I have make no more taxon authorities.

Regards,

PeterR 16:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Templates in species pages[edit]

I follow your argument, that a species page should list the whole species name and not just eg. E. coli.

But I don't understand why a cannot use the genus template {{g: on genus and species pages. There isn't any difference as far as I can tell.

Isfisk 08:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

I hope you can convince Isfisk about using Wikipedia. In my work I had a young Engeneer that everything I told him about SAP and why we had decisioned too do this on one way he had allways questions why his fashion of working was not good. Now about a fifteen days ago my bos e-maild me if I good drink a cup of coffee in the Company. He ask me if I couldn't come back to do the great projekts (new Compressorstations}. I have decided not to do this, because I have to work as a temporary employee and that I have leave home for 7 month. This story means that if we don't work all on the same fashion later on we can get troubles. I think of updates etc.

Regards,

PeterR 09:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

It is not only the way of thinking, but especially accept the rules of working.

By the way how old are you. Such you know I'm 62.

Regards,

PeterR 10:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mariusm,

You have learned me only do the subject in itallics .Only the genus, species or subspecies. Not all

Genus: Cymothoe
Species: Cymothoe hartigi
Subspecies: Cymothoe hartigi hartigi

Learned

Genus: Cymothoe
Species: Cymothoe hartigi
Subspecies: Cymothoe hartigi hartigi

So I can't do again the thousands of insecta. If I have learned it wrong, than after finished Cymothoe I shall do all between itallics if that is necessary.

Mariusm,

I have this send to UhannaUnited.

Wikipedia[edit]

What is the meaning of Wikipedia. Is this a personal database or is this a database for all people based on the rules of the International science. I fill Wikipedia based on the rules of the International science of Insecta. This means with Tribus, Subtribus, Genera, Subgenera, Species, Subspecies, Variation, Formae, Species Groups and Subspecies Groups, Athor names, Type locality, Holotype, Synonyms, References etc.. I deliberation with some Authors of Insecta in the world about the status of new taxa. Are the tribus or Species Groups international Accepted. I fill the databases with their books or bulletins. If Wikipedia is a personal database than I stop with my work.

Regards,

PeterR 11:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regards,

PeterR 17:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia 2=[edit]

It is only that Isfisk do what he only want to do. See mail to me.

Ecnomina

On your first point you're not correct. I wrote Mariusm "I don't understand why a cannot use the genus template {{g: on genus and species pages. There isn't any difference as far as I can tell." and he answered me: "Regarding the genus you're correct: no difference. Mariusm 08:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)"

Second point. You could add the species groups to Ecnomina but I don't think it's that important. Isfisk 19:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

If people do what only they think it is important than you get a personal database.

If I do the genus or species with of without itallics I see no differance. But if people say that it have to be done with itallics I do this. He is the only one who use Genus

I'm tired of updating all his sides or discussed the items.

Regards,

PeterR 13:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phyllomedusa[edit]

Marius,

Herewith I send you news about new frog species from Phyllomedusa [3]

There are more new species: You find them on Google under Phyllomedusa (Bulletins 2007, 2006).

Further there are a lot of new species from Zootaxa.

Regards,

PeterR 12:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zootaxa[edit]

Herewith I send you new Amphibia from Zootaxa with a lot of new species of frogs. [4]

Regards,

PeterR 12:39, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marius,

I don't get Zootaxa or any bullletin for free. I look every day in Google for new taxa in Zootaxa. There are a lot of bulletins free on internet. Mostly with an abstract but sometimes full text and the Japanese bulletins have a bad abstract. In the abstract they say there is a new species, but no which one. I have other entries to get information about the new species. I saw on internet a lot of bulletins from Amphibia. But most of them had a bad abstract such as Journal of Herpetology etc.

I know about the bad constructions in Wikipedia. I look often in the history who have make the side. Are this people in 2008 then I write them in Talk for agreements. But they never answers.

For me the only one who have contact normaly are you and me.

Friday I go with holiday to Portugal for eight days. I write you this because you don't think I stopped allready.

Regards,

PeterR 10:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isfisk[edit]

I wrote this to Isfisk. Maybe he listen now better to us.

Polyura[edit]

One of my contact informants is Nigel Robinson from Thomson. Every month I get a new update for many years. I'm a specialist of Lepidoptera so I get information from authors all of the world. But thanks for the information. Therefore groups and subgroups are important for the science. The groups are sisterspecies in a species. I have allso the disposal about thousands of books in the library of Entomology.

Regards,

PeterR 09:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for answer him the different between
and
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PeterR 13:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for Wikipedia[edit]

I have send Lycaon in Dutch the proposal for Wikipedia as below. This have I allready send to UhannaUnited without answer.

1. Every one who entered Wikipedia have only a lookfunction.

2. If the want help Wikipedia then they have to login.

3. If they have login they see a frame with Amalia, Anura, Lepidoptera, etc.

4. They have to set a V in Anura (for example) and they see a frame with (snakes, gekko's , frogs, etc.)

5. They set a V in frogs and they see Mariusm and can come in his talkpage.

6. They tell you what they want do in the frogside and you are allso their mentor.

7. If you don't have work for them you can ask if they want to do the gekko's. (Because they can use help.)

I think this is a solution against vandalism and contamination of the databases.

Regards,

PeterR 13:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday[edit]

Such I mailed you I go with holiday friday 30 mai till saturday 7 june. Please want you look in my user talk for questions and answer them?

Thanks,

PeterR 13:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Section[edit]

I have make under tribu Eumaeini section from genera. Have I make

E. sect. Brangas – E. sect. Atlides – etc.

Genus: Brangas – Enos – under {{sect|E|umaeini|Brangas?

Regards,

PeterR 14:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Templates[edit]

Did you know that we have make templates for genera and species? OhannaUnited have change my work lasiophila through making templates.

If this is true, why did we not got a massage?

Regards,

PeterR 05:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the reword. Now archive this damn talk page! OhanaUnitedTalk page 06:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Section[edit]

Lamas have make some Genera Sections and therefore I like to make sections but I don't know how. In the templates ii an example but how further. I'm back

PeterR 12:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Code (art.51.2[edit]

Marius,

In the first place I have had a nice holiday in Portugal. The weather was fine and the food was very good. Second: about the genera sections I shall inform you later.

Now I have again a problem with an user about authors. I get the same answers as from Isfisk. They refer to Code art. 51.2 but I cann't find this article. They don't want to work in Taxon Authorities. But if you can tell me where I can find this code I shall ask OhannaUnited to change it.

Regards,

PeterR 19:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Authors[edit]

Marius,

If I do [Vera Cristina Silva|Silva] what have I do more? Have I made Catalog:Taxon Authorities/S and Vera Cristina Silva (Vera Cristina Silva|Silva) and DEFAULTSORT: etc. and no #REDIRECT?

If I say that Taxon Authorities is a mist for me, than I mean that I see 5 or 6 different manners for the same authors. G.Lamas; G. Lamas; Gerardo Lamas; Lamas; Lam. etc. There is no one manner that people create Taxon Authorities. My suggestion is to make a file with all examples how create things in Wikipedia. (Genera, Subgenera, Name, Synonyms, References etc.) Then you have no more discussion or name is good or wrong.

Regards,

PeterR 11:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vernacular names[edit]

Marius,

Why are the letters from Vernacular names not the same as by ==Name== or ==References== etc. To read the english names you need glasses.

Regards,

PeterR 14:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vernacular names[edit]

Mario,

Thanks for the help. I have make new authors by Apocyclops.

My question about the letters under Vernacular names. See Phrynobatrachus batesi English: Bates' River Frog. These letters are not the same as Phrynobatrachus batesi. They are little and you need glasses to read them.

Regards,

PeterR 09:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hylodes[edit]

Herewith I send you a new species of Hylodes, 2008. I see that you have not work with Species Groups.

[5]

Regards,

PeterR 10:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gastrotheca[edit]

Herewith I send you information about Gastrotheca. In your page I'm missing Gastrotheca ernestoi.

I don't know your source (You write me that you have all species till 2008) but your source is not complete.

[6]

Regards,

PeterR 11:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Section[edit]

Herewith I send you an example of Section I want add.

[7]

Regards,

PeterR 11:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hyla[edit]

Herewith I send you new species of Hyla [8]

Regards,

PeterR 17:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anura[edit]

I discover an interesting side on internet Check List. Here an example [9]

Regards,

PeterR 17:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amblyoponini[edit]

Marius,

How can I create genera by Amblyoponini?

Regards,

Peter.

Alsodes norae[edit]

Isfisk have add Alsodes norae in 2008, but I think it is not what you expected. I get these information from Open2universe. He send me a list Special:LonelyPages for updating.

Regards PeterR 10:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colostethus[edit]

I received a list with mistakes. In this list are mentioned Colostethus alagoanus, alessandroi, breweri, chalcopis, dunni and talamancae. Please can you see what is wrong and repair them?

Regards,

PeterR 12:59, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Synonyms[edit]

Marius,

Is it Synonyms or Synonymy?

Regards,

PeterR 06:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Synonyms 2[edit]

Marius,

I ask this because Isfisk use now Synonymy and Reference.

Regards,

PeterR 06:28, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

short text[edit]

Marius,

How get you such a short text by Recent changes?

Regards,

PeterR 06:31, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

short text 2[edit]

If I look by Recent changes I see after Mariusm only the text (new), or (new section) or (new ssp) If I look by Recent changes I see after PeterR a long text. I see in the text what I have done.

Regards,

PeterR 06:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]