User talk:Stongey

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Vernacular names[edit]

Hi Stongey - nice work on filling these out! Couple of small points: wikispecies isn't a compilation of all the vernacular names ever used for a taxon; it is best to stick to one name per language, which should be the official one used in formal publications, field guides, or the language's wikipedia (also the formatting also doesn't work properly when used with commas), use Sentence case (start with a capital, or capitalise all first letters where the language's official lists do so); and no need to add English transliterations of Japanese names (just as we don't for Chinese, Armenian, Georgian, Russian, etc., etc.!). Thanks! - MPF (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey MPF - Point taken about Japanese. I think I just was doing that because Avibase generally lists a Japanese transliteration and one of the early species I did already had the transliteration listed, so I just continued in that pattern. As for multiple names, I have generally been keeping only one name, unless the previous entry already listed multiples. I have been preferring previous entries over my new list based on an assumption that the original contributor probably speaks that language... The problem, of course, is when a species has multiple common names (e.g. Goosander / Common merganser). I can stick with the Wikipedia page name. I would personally prefer to retain both, but I'm not that bothered either way. What do you do with language like Serbian/Croatian where two alphabets are used? Avibase shows the both in Latin script and Cyrillic. I would seem to me to be important to retain both, but with a slash separating instead of a comma? Ideas? Stongey (talk) 22:35, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! For the Serbian/Croatian question, I tried a slash a while back, but it messed the VN code up even worse than commas; maybe a spaced hyphen |sr=Aaaa - Ббббб or just a space |sr=Aaaa Ббббб would be better. For the Goosander / Common Merganser question, I'm planning on creating a new en-us language code (i.e., |en=Goosander |en-us=Common Merganser ), same as already done at Commons; I just need to work out how to set it up. - MPF (talk) 22:59, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Both of those work for me!Stongey (talk) 23:26, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Dan Koehl (talk) 03:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Patroller?[edit]

Dear, Stongey! Would you accept to be a Patroller on Wikispecies? Wikispecies need more Patrollers and presently there is only 37 out of 150 active users.
Please see Patrollers for information about patrollers rights. If you are positive, I can nominate you on the requests for patroller rights on your behalf.

Dan Koehl (talk) 11:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pics[edit]

Hi Stongey - in this edit you changed the photo with the summary "clearer photo". The photo you added is actually less clear, as it is lacking any location data, so its subspecies (and arguably even species at all) is not determinable; it is also very low resolution (only 62 kb, compared to the 2.76 megabytes of the pic I'd used). I'd selected the previous photo very carefully, to use one of the nominate subspecies from a known location, which is very important in taxonomic work. As an aside too, it's not necessary to change the VN list from spaces to new lines; it makes future editing tedious, having to scroll half-way to Australia to get to the end - much easier in paragraph format ;-) Thanks! - MPF (talk) 16:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I suppose "clearer" here is a matter of opinion. Your photo is certainly of higher resolution and better documented, no argument there. But it is also grainy and noisy, not well-focused (to my eye) and difficult to discern the field marks that distinguish this species from other similar species. In particular, you cannot tell that this bird has a brown cap. The photo that I selected is crisper, less noisy, and shows the colours better. But I concede that it is a matter of opinion or even expected use of this article, and I'm not particularly bothered by which photo is used. On another subject, it seems to me that the formatting of the VN list is also a matter of opinion, as I find it far easier to read, visually scan, compare, and edit using external scripts and editors when the list is formatted as a single line per language. Stongey (talk) 04:17, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]