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Pls see my second email, you need to create TEMPLATE pages for ref. templates! Stho002 (talk) 03:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Again, pls see my second email, you need to create TEMPLATE pages for ref. templates! Stho002 (talk) 05:15, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

FYI: Catolasmus Stho002 (talk) 04:25, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Handy hint[edit]

Next time you create a ref. template, just put {{subst:reftemp}} after the citation, and this will automatically create the links (reference page, pages which cite ...) Stho002 (talk) 02:17, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


No, the BHL doi links to a page with both volumes. You want v. 2. Just click on it from the BHL page. Stho002 (talk) 03:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)


  • Please don't create pages with subgenera in the page title, thanks Stho002 (talk) 02:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)


As one of the more active users on Wikispecies, I wonder if you would accept to be nominated as one of its Wikispecies:Administrators? Dan Koehl (talk) 09:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Please confirm that you accept nomination at nomination page below the nomination, and above the line support. Dan Koehl (talk) 17:10, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
You are now an Admin. Congratulations. Dan Koehl (talk) 18:53, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguating References[edit]

  • There is no need to disambiguate references visibly. For an imaginary example, don't use Smith, 1900a, but use [[Template:Smith, 1900a|{{aut|Smith}}, 1900]], which displays as Smith, 1900 Stho002 (talk) 04:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
  • I agree. Here is one of your pages Stho002 is talking about, Neferkheperre. --Totipotent (talk) 09:57, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

?Lepas elongata et al.[edit]

Howdy Neferkheperre, Since you are now an administrator, I recommend that you delete your redirected page ?Lepas_elongata. Click "?Lepas elongata" under "Semibalanus balanoides." Once you are on the ?Lepas elongata page, you will see the option to delete the page if you mouse-over the downward facing triangle to the right of the options "Read," "Edit," "View history," and the star icon, on the top right of the page. Click "delete" and edit the comment why if you see fit. I see no need for that page. Please inform me of your reasoning if you think it should stay. --Totipotent (talk) 08:12, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Please, delete Kathpalmeria (?) wardi, also. --Totipotent (talk) 08:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)


Please don't include the section heading ==Taxonavigation== in templates! If you do, and you want to edit the section, you click "edit" and get the template, not the section! Thanks Stho002 (talk) 04:40, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hungarian translation[edit]

I can handle Chinese easily since it's my native language. But as I was telling others, it can be a pain when the researchers share the same last name despite having no relation whatsoever. OhanaUnitedTalk page 18:19, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmm! I start understanding the problem. I think, in Hungarian and in geology (this is my qualification) we cite the referred article in that language, how it was written. There are „problems” with languages using non-latine alphabet. In Hungarian spelling there are several so-called „transcriptions” about these languages, so we transcript those non-latine titles and names into latine-alphabetized form (this is not translation!, just a transcription). After maybe we need a translation too, because we don't understand either original title, or transcripted title, but I don't know, what is the convention for representing this: writing this in brackets or I don't know. (Maybe the most practical way is to translate the whole article :)) Furthermore an article sometimes has a short resumé (or abstract) in foreign language (e.g. English, French...) at the end or the beginning of article, and these abstracts are mentioned in brackets after the article-title. But I think, it depends on place, where just we are. So we are in Wikispecies, and I have zero experience with templates, conventions etc. If you don't mind, I write just here the English translation of the Hungarian article-title:

  • „Tengerbiológiai tanulmány a kacslábúak, puhatestűek és korallok társulásáról.” = „A marine biological study on the association of cirripeds, molluscs and corals.”;
  • „tengerbiológiai tanulmány” = „marine biological study”;
  • „kacslábúak” = „cirripeds”;
  • „puhatestűek” = „molluscs”;
  • „korallok” = „corals”;
  • „társulás” = „association” (in ecology);
  • „a kacslábúak, puhatestűek és korallok társulásáról” = „on the association of cirripeds, molluscs and corals”.

Hungarian is a so-called „agglutinate” language: we agglutinate suffixes to the end of nouns; Hungarians don't use prepositions before a noun in spite of English language. So in Hungarian is said „társulásról”, in English is said „on association”. Here is genitive case too, that may be different in Hungarian and in English:

  • „kacslábúak, puhatestűek és korallok társulása” = „association of cirripeds, molluscs and corals”.

There is another problem, what is mentioned by user:OhanaUnited. In Hungarian geology there are Horusitzky Henrik and Horusitzky Ferenc (we Hungarian use the so-called „Eastern name-order” as it's used in China, Japan, Vietnam etc., so Horusitzky is the surname). In their case I checked a solution in Hungarian geological literature: Horusitzky Henrik is cited as „Horusitzky H.” and Horusitzky Ferenc is cited as „Horusitzky F.”. I don't know, whether is it help you. --Sphenodon (talk) 18:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Vote request[edit]

Hello, I’m Marius, an admin here at WS. I would like to ask you to contribute to an important ongoing vote which will practically decide the future of WS. As you probably know, the user Stho002, an admin, is forcefully endorsing his concept of the content and format of WS. His “system” includes a complex mesh of templates and links which is nowhere specified or written down, is not considered as a consensus, and is not easy or trivial to use, especially by newcomers. As my experience goes, when I save an edited page, Stho002 will delete or change it sooner or later, sometimes in a matter of seconds. This is no way of maintaining a healthy community. It is a lamentable fact that the aggressiveness by which Stho enforces his way deters many users and causes many newcomers leave this site.

The original WS help pages ([1], [2], [3]) contain a much simpler system, where the resulting taxa information is no less clear nor less detailed then Stho’s format, and which is being used successfully for years by experienced users as well as by novices.

If we decide that our current page format is outdated in need of improvement, we surely must make the change through collaboration and discussion. It is unacceptable that a single user will dictate his concept, however better-suited for our purposes he thinks it is.

We therefore have three options: (a) to make Stho002 system the official WS format; (b) to endorse the system specified in the help pages; (c) to devise a new system by mutual cooperation. After we reach an agreement, we’ll modify the help pages accordingly, resulting in a consistent way of doing things, without having to fight among ourselves, without having to resort to deleting and modifying each other’s work.

Therefore please read the discussion here and take a moment of your time and make your choice here. I think it is your obligation as an admin to participate in the vote. Thanks, Mariusm (talk) 08:57, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Category:Cretaceous Ostracoda[edit]

Hello, You changed Category:Cretaceous Ostracoda to Category:Cretaceous Marine Taxa. Please note that at least 5 species are nonmarine species. Therefore the changed category became wrong and misleading. There would be a subdivision of species necessary. Or better, revert to the situation before, as the Category Cretaceous Ostracoda is one category of many other categories for Ostracoda. You are disturbing a well-thought system for the Ostracoda. You may establish additional categories for all cretaceous taxa, but leave those un-altered that are existing for the Ostracoda.

Kempf EK (talk) 19:41, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Need clarification[edit]

I wonder, why didn't you participate until now in the votes and in the discussions at the PUMP, but is quick to intervene when an abusive user is blocked as a warning. Stho has been uncooperative for a long time, and he also forced countless users (including me) to leave WS as a result of his conduct. Mariusm (talk) 06:30, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Apparently I am not in loop for vote notification. I have gotten exactly one, last September, for the format discussions. I spent considerable time there. I do not check Village Pump every day, as activity is haphazard, and usually is outside my area of interest, and have to find things out accidently, sometimes. I did not even know about discussion of Stho's admin status until after he had resigned it. Moot court, by that time.
All of the YahooGroup blogs I am on have votes, and all members are blanket notified when voting is proposed. Thus, it should be possible to devise same here, for all people who are eligible. Yes, I would like to participate more. Neferkheperre (talk) 15:08, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
I think you need to add the VP to your watch list Stho002 (talk) 20:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
I think I succeeded. Learn something new everyday. Neferkheperre (talk) 21:43, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

ZMA numbers[edit]

The ZMA numbers on my pages are taken from Catalog of Fishes (which takes them in turn from the original descriptions), so I do not know of a single separate ZMA list or database. From what I can find, the ZMA collection is now part of that of Naturalis Biodiversity Centre, which has catalogs of some, but looks like not all, of its collections here. Hope this is of some help, and good luck with your work. Koumz (talk) 00:51, 27 December 2014 (UTC)