User talk:Zephram Stark

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What can I do for you today? --Zephram Stark 19:29, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Logo attribution 2 Wikispecies Logo 3 logo implementation 4 Improper display

[edit] Logo attribution

Hey Zack, I'm getting ocassional confusion about the origin of the Wikispecies logo. Especially on this page: http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:Wiki.png

We have the history pages of the logo contest - including my original design submission with the ball, double helix and U design. You cleaned the file up, added shadowing, etc. Would you mind changing the attribution for the image on your userpage to read "Logo creation I designed for Wikispecies based on an original logo by Jeremy Kemp." Thanks! Jeremykemp

I "cleaned the file up?"

Here is your concept design:

It took you all of what, fifteen minutes?

Here is the logo I created based on your concept design:

Including multiple requests for revisions, it took me sixteen hours. I think it's fair to say that this is the logo I created based on your concept design, which is exactly how the image is attributed.

It should also be noted that you were asked several times over a two month period to turn your concept design into a logo. You never responded or gave any indication that you would, so I was hired for the job. The only payment I requested was recognition for my work.

--Zephram Stark 03:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikispecies Logo

Hi there! Thanks a lot for your help with the wikispecies logo, it is much appreciated and I think it looks great. Could you please create a text-version png of the "winning version" image, basically the same thing as you did for the "organic version" file? Thanks a lot, Benedikt

Sure, I'll get right on it. --Zephram Stark 04:59, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

How's this?

[edit] logo implementation

hey there, I uploaded the logo as "Wiki.png", but the page doesn't seem to be terribly impressed - where and under which filename do I have to upload the file to make it appear on the main page? Thanks, --Benedikt 19:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Improper display

On Firefox 1.0.4, I get this image, with a good deal of the ball and subtitle gone. IE 6 cuts the samer amount off the ball. Any ideas? -- user:zanimum

I get the same issue on Safari. Could someone fix this issue? --24.61.119.222 23:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Same here on mac with Firefox 1.5 62.255.16.197 23:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

It appears that the Navigation bar is not dynamically situated based on the logo size. This problem is especially evident on Wikipedia, where the logo is forced up to the top, on Wikisource where there isn't even room for text, and here at Wikispecies. There are six feasible fixes for this bug:

1. I would be happy to make the location of the Navigation bar dynamic
2. Another developer could correct the fixed location of the Navigation bar (by making it dynamic)
3. We could eliminate the text of the logo as is done on Wikisource
4. We could place the text in front of the logo with a white glow between it and the logo
5. We could make the logo extremely small to fit within the space
6. We could eliminate the red ball from the top of the logo

I would be happy to help in any capacity.

--Zephram Stark 02:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Wouldn't that be a css issue? Css can be edited by any admin at MediaWiki:monobook.css. n:user:bawolff 03:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC) (note I probally don't have a clue what i'm talking about)

monobook.css is used only to add things to the main area of the page, not the side margin. The Mediawiki 'monobook' style sheet found in file main.css controls the space allowed for the logo. As you can see in the snippet of code I've copied below, that height is limited to 155px. It should be dynamic, based on the size of the logo.

** Logo properties
*/

#p-logo {
    z-index: 3;
    position: absolute; /*needed to use z-index */
    top: 0;
    left: 0;
    height: 155px;
    width: 12em;
    overflow: visible;
}
#p-logo h5 {
    display: none;
}
#p-logo a,
#p-logo a:hover {
    display: block;
    height: 155px;
    width: 12.2em;
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 35% 50% !important;
    text-decoration: none;
}

A search of the buglist reveals no issues about the spacing of logos. I don't think that a bug issue is really needed since a hardcoded value of 155px was obviously just placed there temporarily until the additional coding of a dynamic value was needed. If I changed the code to make the space a minimum of 155px, but a maximum of whatever is needed to comfortably allow for the logo (height only, width should remain hardcoded), I seriously doubt that anyone would have even the slightest complaint. At the most, they might notice that every page looks better on Wikipedia and Wikispecies. As Big John always says, "position is everything." --Zephram Stark 17:21, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm getting the same problem in my Firefox, too. The upper part of the ball is cut off and 90% of the subtitle is, too. I like the logo per se though! --en:User:HereToHelp

Thanks for fixing that Stark. It looks great now! --Sarah Scott 22:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)